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Why Obamacare Will NOT Be Repealed Anytime Soon
Self | 11/11/16 | fwdude

Posted on 11/11/2016 9:25:12 AM PST by fwdude

Since the campaigns are over and electioneering can cease, let's take a realistic look as the lay of the land and understand what is likely to occur under Trump's administration and what is not likely.

Indeed, Obamacare repeal legislation has been floated numerous times by the Republican House over the past several years, only to find an unwilling Senate or Executive roadblock to kill all possibility. I contend that we are in a similar situation now.

A perilously bare "R" majority in the senate will be the death knell for any repeal for at least the next two years. Democrats will form a monolithic bloc of opposition to any repeal, and the remaining RINO's will insist on meaningless tweaking of the current law before they'll sign their names to any legislation, but won't go for an outright repeal. So, the senate remains a roadblock.

If I'm missing anything in this analysis, let me know. I'm just a realist who doesn't see a way forward, especially with the raw hatred of the left aimed straight at America.


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To: fwdude

The Democrats in congress will also vote to repeal ObamaCare, voters are demanding it be killed and replaced.


21 posted on 11/11/2016 9:32:02 AM PST by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: fwdude

Forbes said this.

Under President Trump, Repealing & Replacing Obamacare Will Be Harder Than It Looks

http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2016/11/09/under-president-trump-repealing-replacing-obamacare-will-be-harder-than-it-looks/#1d53e3b47d24


22 posted on 11/11/2016 9:32:08 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: fwdude

All Trump has to do is issue an EO forbidding the IRS from taking action on penalties on those that refuse to buy the crap, and it will fully collapse of its own weight.

Congress passes the laws, but POTUS enforces, or chooses not to enforce them, up to, and including pardons.

Obama has chooses to ignore the constitution plenty of times.


23 posted on 11/11/2016 9:32:30 AM PST by FrankR (You're only enslaved to the extent of the charity that you receive!)
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To: fwdude

Kill it January 20th.

Stop the Obamacare coverage immediately.

Watch the cost of of health insurance premiums fall, fall, fall!

That’s what Trump will do!!!


24 posted on 11/11/2016 9:32:48 AM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: fwdude

We should not start the reversal of the last 8 years of oppression with talk of “perilously thin margins” and likelihoods and all that.

There are very simple things that could be done instantly. Allow US-wide plans to compete at the US level, not just by states. Further, these government MANDATES about acceptable plans in tiers is horseshit. Let people buy what they need and stop mandating that the plans must all cover birth control, abortion payments and a whole host of other high-risk, immoral lifestyles simply because the government once endorsed them.

Lots of ways to reform Medicare and Medicare coverages and payments also.

We don’t have to tippy-toe around anybody. Get it done.


25 posted on 11/11/2016 9:32:51 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: HerrBlucher

Trump just needs to say that the first thing to be delivered is the cronycare repeal. The autopen veto is warmed up for anything else that comes in. Oh, and with this shutdown the national parks stay open.


26 posted on 11/11/2016 9:32:52 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Tenacious 1

I base that largely on the fact wimps like McConnel go with the flow, they appease the powers that be. Trump is now the powers that be. Pubbie wimps that kissed bammies arse will soon bow before Trump. We are already seeing it.


27 posted on 11/11/2016 9:33:16 AM PST by HerrBlucher (For the sake of His sorrowful passion have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Correct Sac.

The idiots - Obama and Congress - have no idea how insurance works, or health care, or private citizens’ budgets.

They just believe that the Government has permission to tax, tax, tax and redistribute the funds for pet programs and their own salaries.


28 posted on 11/11/2016 9:33:21 AM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: fwdude

All President Trump has to do is declare universal amnesty from Obamacare for all current and future US citizens.


29 posted on 11/11/2016 9:33:40 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: fwdude

Have you learned nothing about Trump? Holy cow.


30 posted on 11/11/2016 9:34:13 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: fwdude

Yes, you are missing that the dynamic has been turned on its head.

Beyond the RINOs not wanting to explain to constituents why they left the massive increases and penalties intact (which are necessary to keep the thing barely afloat), you make the big mistake of assuming that Democrats will be a monumental block. They answer to their constituents as well, and the power structure for the Democrats will also be turned on ts head. New blood in Democrat leadership will be looking to make their mark, but they won’t be as powerful as the old structure, and a Democrats in States that don’t like Obamacare will be able to exert independence.

The dynamic has entirely changed - that is what you are missing. Obamacare is gone.


31 posted on 11/11/2016 9:34:14 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast ("Now it's up to the American people to deliver justice")
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To: fwdude
If the Turtle-faced Bastard from Kentucky can't figure out how to get 0bortioncare repealed, then he needs to be repealed. Replace him with a senator who's actually committed to the job.

I could offer suggestions ...

32 posted on 11/11/2016 9:34:24 AM PST by NorthMountain (Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: fwdude

Trump will target Dems who are up for reelection in 2018 and any Dems who are “new” and did not originally vote for it. He’ll get it done.

He will.


33 posted on 11/11/2016 9:34:28 AM PST by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: fwdude

50 votes are all it took to pass, 50 votes will repeal it.


34 posted on 11/11/2016 9:34:29 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: fwdude

Two things different than the past:

1. 2016 election results
2. 2016 premium increases.


35 posted on 11/11/2016 9:34:33 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: be-baw

“...reelection in 2018...”

Bingo.

Jujitsu is the art of using an opponents strength against them.

And what “strength” can we use against our Rino & Dem opponents?
Answer: their fervent desire to be re-elected.


36 posted on 11/11/2016 9:34:53 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: fwdude

Obama issued support by executive order through HEW. Without it Obama care falls under its own weight.


37 posted on 11/11/2016 9:35:06 AM PST by Tex52
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To: FrankR

Trump can issue a plenary waiver to Obamacare on day 1.


38 posted on 11/11/2016 9:35:14 AM PST by agere_contra (I will be glad and rejoice in your love, for You saw my affliction and knew the anguish of my soul.)
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To: Arm_Bears
Cut the Subsidies and it dies
39 posted on 11/11/2016 9:35:24 AM PST by scooby321 (o even lower)
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To: fwdude

Day one, Trump countermands all executive orders exempting various groups from Obama care provisions.

Suddenly Obama care isn’t funny anymore. Not even to the most bitter globalists.

Your point is no point at all.


40 posted on 11/11/2016 9:35:39 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck?Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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