Posted on 11/09/2016 10:08:00 AM PST by fwdude
Words can't express my relief over the results of this election - we have been granted a reprieve indeed.
But I am vexed over the fact that we have, or likely will, LOSE seats in both the house and senate. What is with that?!!! Do voters really try to be "equitable" in electing a conservative, but trying to balance it out with a more liberal legislature?
Granted, the losses appear to be small, but the Senate balance is disturbing.
No given the GOP had many more seats to defend. And seats in traditional Dem areas. And seats with pretty unpopular incumbents The GOP should of lost the Senate easily. That the GOP holds the Senate is actually a pretty significant win for Trump. He had coattails.
We had 24 Senate seats up for reelection, they only had 10.
Echoes of the 2010 midterms where we slaughtered the bad guys.
We still have majorities, and now we need to and will, enact:
1) Stringent, bullet proof Voter ID laws
2) Mass one way deportation of illegal immigrants
3) Mass cleansing of voter registration rolls in every state. No more duplicate or dead people voting.
4) Elimination of bullshit felony voting
Properly done, if we implement these fair and simple measures, we wont lose an election for a long, long time.
Yes, it was sweet to see Kirk kicked to the curb. At least IL now has an “honest” Demonicrat in that seat.
But the placeholder value is always nice.
If the quisling, capon, gelding, traitor-to-their-electorate congresspersons don’t start representing the will of their electorate, they can all lose. Who wants such traitorous, dishonest poltroons?
Some Senate losses were inevitable since the group of Senators was last up for election in 2010. That year, in the wake of Obamacare passing, Republicans won nearly every Senate race that was in a remotely competitive state. The two seats lost this year were in Illinois (Kirk), which is a very blue state and apparently New Hampshire (Ayotte), which also leans blue now. Interestingly, both Kirk and Ayotte were among the handful of Senators that declined to endorse Trump, so if anything that refusal hurt their chances.
The House losses were similarly predictable. After the 2010, 2012, and 2014 election cycles, the Republican majority in the House was the largest in about century. Republicans do better in mid-term elections like 2014, because Republican voters turn out more reliably in mid-terms. Many low information Democrats only get interested in voting when there is 24/7 media coverage of the elections and Beyonce and Lady Gaga are appearing at rallies, so some of the marginal seats the Republicans win in mid-term elections are invariably lost in Presidential years.
Trump had significant coattails, as the losses were much smaller than were being predicted. As earlier as the spring, the media was crowing about it being almost inevitable that the Democrats would take back the Senate in this cycle, and as recently as a few weeks ago, there was lots of speculation that the Democrats might win back the house.
Some Senate losses were inevitable since the group of Senators was last up for election in 2010. That year, in the wake of Obamacare passing, Republicans won nearly every Senate race that was in a remotely competitive state. The two seats lost this year were in Illinois (Kirk), which is a very blue state and apparently New Hampshire (Ayotte), which also leans blue now. Interestingly, both Kirk and Ayotte were among the handful of Senators that declined to endorse Trump, so if anything that refusal hurt their chances.
The House losses were similarly predictable. After the 2010, 2012, and 2014 election cycles, the Republican majority in the House was the largest in about century. Republicans do better in mid-term elections like 2014, because Republican voters turn out more reliably in mid-terms. Many low information Democrats only get interested in voting when there is 24/7 media coverage of the elections and Beyonce and Lady Gaga are appearing at rallies, so some of the marginal seats the Republicans win in mid-term elections are invariably lost in Presidential years.
Trump had significant coattails, as the losses were much smaller than were being predicted. As earlier as the spring, the media was crowing about it being almost inevitable that the Democrats would take back the Senate in this cycle, and as recently as a few weeks ago, there was lots of speculation that the Democrats might win back the house.
Some Senate losses were inevitable since the group of Senators was last up for election in 2010. That year, in the wake of Obamacare passing, Republicans won nearly every Senate race that was in a remotely competitive state. The two seats lost this year were in Illinois (Kirk), which is a very blue state and apparently New Hampshire (Ayotte), which also leans blue now. Interestingly, both Kirk and Ayotte were among the handful of Senators that declined to endorse Trump, so if anything that refusal hurt their chances.
The House losses were similarly predictable. After the 2010, 2012, and 2014 election cycles, the Republican majority in the House was the largest in about century. Republicans do better in mid-term elections like 2014, because Republican voters turn out more reliably in mid-terms. Many low information Democrats only get interested in voting when there is 24/7 media coverage of the elections and Beyonce and Lady Gaga are appearing at rallies, so some of the marginal seats the Republicans win in mid-term elections are invariably lost in Presidential years.
Trump had significant coattails, as the losses were much smaller than were being predicted. As earlier as the spring, the media was crowing about it being almost inevitable that the Democrats would take back the Senate in this cycle, and as recently as a few weeks ago, there was lots of speculation that the Democrats might win back the house.
Easy.
Trump attracted non-Republicans
Very good point. Anyone know what the 2018 races looks like for the Senate? Perhaps we'll gain there.
Kirk (R imposter) IL is the only seat we lost. That is no loss.
Joe Manchin (O Opportunist) is pondering jumping to the R side. Do we want him? He is in the mold of the Clintons... Pure opportunist in it for his own power and advancement.
Manchin would be a convenient majority place holder if he came over. I wouldn’t expect much else out of him.
No need to be vexed.
Had the Republican Senators and Representatives unified behind the Republican presidential nominee, the GOP might have a 2/3 majority in both houses, and Trump would probably have won several more states.
The RINOs screwed Americans again.
Sorry, I didn’t vote for McCain and am done with him. And when Jeff Flake comes up, won’t be voting for him either. He is more vulnerable than McCain, so if he is smart he won’t seek reelection. I have to assume he will seek reelection.
I am a Conservative, not a Republican. However the Pubs did hold on to the House and Senate and Trump won.
I am more concerned with the traitors and squishes in the GOP than numbers.
I don’t see the vote yesterday as Republican vs. Democrat or conservative vs. liberal. It was a vote of frustration, because too many Republicans have been elected promising to change the direction of the Obama presidency only to disappoint in the results.
If you look at previous elections, there is usually a significant swing in the makeup of the House and Senate. Yesterday was more of a status quo, especially in the Senate where so many Republicans were up for reelection. The focus was on the race for the Presidency and the hope that Trump will do what so many Republicans have not done before.
For the senate, its a matter of which party has more seats ‘up for grabs’.
Guess which party has more up for grabs in the mid-term.
Manchin read the election returns from WV.
As for Kirk, what conservative can be disappointed that he lost ?
I wouldn’t worry about the seats we lost. The Senate six years ago (2010) was an amazing GOP sweep. We lost a seat in IL and one in NH probably, and Hillary carried both. We expected to lose far more seats than we did. The same is true for the House. Also, we generally lost House seats in areas than Hillary carried, so the loss should not be a surprise.
The voters were not trying to be equitable. We lost two seats in NV, which Hillary carried. We barely lost a seat in NH, which Hillary barely carried. We lost a seat in IL, which Hillary carried. We lost a seat in NJ, which Hillary carried. We lost two seats in HI, which Hillary carried. We lost a seat in a part of PA that Hillary carried. There’s a pattern.
Right now we’re in control of the Senate, the House and the governors.
https://interactives.ap.org/2016/general-election/?SITE=SHAWELN&DEFAULTGEO=TRUE
Our side is so good at being paranoid, pearl clutching handwringers. Enjoy today. Stop crying
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