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ONE GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND Elon Musk to reveal next step in mission to build city on Mars
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1854993/elon-musk-to-reveal-next-step-in-mission-to-build-city-on-mars ^ | 9/26/2016 | JASPER HAMILL

Posted on 09/26/2016 10:15:24 AM PDT by samtheman

ONE GIANT LEAP FOR MANKIND Elon Musk to reveal next step in mission to build city on Mars

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To: rigelkentaurus

In spite of the movie, “The Martian”, man is not optimized for life on Mars or on any planet other than Earth. Years of adaptation to the environment on Earth have guaranteed that.

Life on another planet will not work, for many reasons, not the least of which will be missing green grass, blue skies, soft breeze, rain, snow, lush fields of wheat. Get it?

Colonizing Mars will be a crime against the children who will be conceived there. It will deprive those children of their terrestrial heritage and force them to live in an alien environment.

No one has the right to do that, but in a world where abortion gets protected by the law, I know danmed well that those children will not be given a choice.


21 posted on 09/26/2016 10:53:53 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Carl Vehse
Mars doesn’t have enough gravity to retain oxygen or water vapor in the atmosphere.

That is correct. The current Martian atmosphere is close to vacuum. I was thinking of enclosed habitats. You can pump in Martian CO2 to get oxygen.

22 posted on 09/26/2016 10:55:36 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Yup.
And he’s well along on those.


23 posted on 09/26/2016 10:56:12 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: Leep

You’re kidding but if there are still “greens” here on earth when we are ready to terraform Mars you can bet they will be against changing any of that “pristine” wasteland.


24 posted on 09/26/2016 10:56:34 AM PDT by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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To: PapaBear3625; Mr. K

Mars has no molten core, thus no magnetic field to shield the planet from our sun’s solar wind. Because of that, it can never retain an earth-like atmosphere.

Perhaps one day humans will figure out how to restart the planet’s internal dynamo, which would create a magnetic field. It’s the only way to build a breathable atmosphere on Mars.


25 posted on 09/26/2016 10:58:44 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: samtheman

Dont let muslims in or urban feral blacks.


26 posted on 09/26/2016 11:01:57 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: samtheman

Just so they don’t move Sheila Jackson-Lee’s flag...


27 posted on 09/26/2016 11:08:35 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: samtheman
"Spain and Italy had lots of problems in 1492. Should Columbus have stayed home and worked on those?"

I never said anything about not trying to go to Mars.

Am just curious why such a "great mind" isn't asked (or, that I have heard, never offers), ideas about "real life" things happening in the here and now.

Maybe it's like asking a painter to do a sculpture. Just not his thing.

28 posted on 09/26/2016 11:09:06 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: Billthedrill

LMAO That one never gets old. What a ditz she is.


29 posted on 09/26/2016 11:09:40 AM PDT by tioga
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To: samtheman

Without addressing the lack of an electromagnetic field to protect us from cosmic radiation, living underground would be the only feasible option.

At least for the considerable future.


30 posted on 09/26/2016 11:11:12 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey playoffs season!)
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To: samtheman

We are not going to and returning from Mars this century. Will we make attempts? Yes we will. But Mars aren’t no Moon. The fastest spacecraft launched from Earth was NASA’s New Horizons mission, which is en route to Pluto. In January 2006, the probe left Earth at 36,000 mph. The time it would take such a probe to get to Mars would be, on average: 3,888 hours (162 days). And although astronauts have been on the ISS longer, they are resupplied on a regular basis and that wouldn’t be possible for a Mars mission.


31 posted on 09/26/2016 11:11:43 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: Mr. K

Oh, it’s got plenty of carbon dioxide, that’s not going to be a problem.

Your problem is going to be the lack of precipitation and year-round freezing temperatures. Think of farming in Antarctica without the snow.


32 posted on 09/26/2016 11:14:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

“Think of farming in Antarctica without the snow.”

Seed the place with cold loving extremophiles from Earth.

Or not. Mars may already have a thriving ecosystem of its own extremophiles.


33 posted on 09/26/2016 11:27:48 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: samtheman

Love much of what Musk is doing, but any colony on Mars will only serve for resources extraction for building space-based colonies. Colonies NOT based on planets make far more sense than colonies based on planets.


34 posted on 09/26/2016 11:35:00 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Windflier

That’s nice, but we can’t eat bacteria.


35 posted on 09/26/2016 11:48:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

“That’s nice, but we can’t eat bacteria.”

The extremophiles aren’t for eating, Boogie. They’re for kick starting life on that rock.

Our folks are going to have to pre-stage their own food supplies on Mars.


36 posted on 09/26/2016 12:03:37 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

Yes I know all about the planets that the Klingons and Romulons and Vulcans etc live on : )


37 posted on 09/26/2016 1:56:11 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: samtheman

Gary Johnson for Mayor!


38 posted on 09/26/2016 1:57:23 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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To: Phlap

The time it would take such a probe to get to Mars would be, on average: 3,888 hours (162 days). And although astronauts have been on the ISS longer, they are resupplied on a regular basis and that wouldn’t be possible for a Mars mission.


The ISS is resupplied, and it’s also protected from the worst of Solar Wind and at least some Galactic Cosmic Rays by the earth’s magnetic field, which it is inside.

A space station in geosynchronous orbit would be much more dangerous than the ISS. As would a 162 day flight to Mars (and then add the unprotected time on the Martian surface and then add the return trip, assuming it isn’t a suicide mission).

Radiation is a showstopper.


39 posted on 09/26/2016 2:27:35 PM PDT by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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To: minnesota_bound

“Yes I know all about the planets that the Klingons and Romulons and Vulcans etc live on : )”

Ehhhh... Wise guy, eh??

Why, I oughta....(boink boink, bonk, boop!)


40 posted on 09/26/2016 2:32:11 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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