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A mother shot a 31-year-old man she found kissing her teen daughter, police say
https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ^ | 8/30/16 | Kristine Guerra

Posted on 08/31/2016 4:30:25 PM PDT by BBell

A 31-year-old man found himself running from bullets after a mother found him in her 16-year-old daughter’s bedroom, police say.

Valerie Fowler, of Paoli, Okla., shot Brandon Vail twice after she found him and her daughter kissing, according to an affidavit. Vail survived and was taken to a hospital by helicopter, while Fowler was arrested on charges of assault and battery with a deadly weapon.

The teen, who was identified in the affidavit as K.P., told police that her boyfriend had been coming over three times a week after her mother left for work at 5:30 a.m.

But on Monday morning, Fowler kicked in the locked bedroom door and fired a shot at Vail as he tried to get out of bed, according to the affidavit. Vail ran toward the hallway, while Fowler fired a second shot at him.

Michael Lewis, police chief for Paoli, about 50 miles southeast of Oklahoma City, was called about 7:20 a.m. to a nearby trailer home, where he found Vail lying on the front porch, according to the affidavit.

Investigators found bloodstains on the bed and sheets, as well as on the walls and floors of Fowler’s house. They also found a handgun.

Lewis told NBC affiliate KFOR that the 16-year-old girl and a young child witnessed the shooting. Lewis was not immediately available for comment Tuesday.

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TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; 31yearoldman; banglist; firearms; girlswithguns; guns; mother; oklahoma; shot; teendaughter; valeriefowler
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To: donna
16 year olds can't even smoke. That's a child.

Well hell, a 20-year-old can't even smoke in California now.

41 posted on 08/31/2016 5:44:39 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: ozzymandus

Mom is 34, kid is 16 and shooting victim is 31.

There is more to this story.

Maybe mom and the guy she shot had a relationship.

In any case, mom is not all that competent if she did not notice a man in her kid’s bedroom in trailer. It’s not like it is a 3500 sq ft house.


42 posted on 08/31/2016 5:45:18 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Trump20162020

Didnt realize it was Oklahoma. Child bride mentality strikes again.

Considering your response appears to be defending it. Hope your daughters give you this gift.


43 posted on 08/31/2016 5:45:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: donna
16 year olds can't even smoke. That's a child.

Yup, if he brought beer and a pack of smokes he'd be going to jail.

44 posted on 08/31/2016 5:47:06 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Secret Agent Man
Considering your response appears to be defending it.

Informing you that you're wrong under Oklahoma law ≠ "defending it"

45 posted on 08/31/2016 5:49:18 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Rockingham

“n Florida, the stand your ground law would likely assure dismissal of the charges.”

I don’t think I can shoot my teenage kid’s friends who are visiting my house.


46 posted on 08/31/2016 5:50:00 PM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Trump20162020

well, then I take it back.


47 posted on 08/31/2016 5:50:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: LouieFisk
But if we’re talking about just mutual kissing...

The guy was in bed when he was rousted and was coming over three times a week.

48 posted on 08/31/2016 5:51:26 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: luvbach1

“The guy was in bed when he was rousted and was coming over three times a week.”
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Well, then obviously a mere handgun won’t suffice. She should have called in Kim’s Young ‘Un to bring in the anti-aircraft guns. Or send in ISIS to behead them both on the spot.


49 posted on 08/31/2016 6:03:05 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: BBell

I wish I’d had the nerve to shoot the 22 yr old who impregnated my dumb 16 yr old granddaughter.


50 posted on 08/31/2016 6:04:39 PM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: LouieFisk
"...fired a shot at Vail as he tried to get out of bed,"

But he was OK because he was just in bed with the daughter for mutual kissing.

51 posted on 08/31/2016 6:06:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When truth is outlawed, only outlaws will have the truth.)
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To: AuntB
I wish I’d had the nerve to shoot the 22 yr old who impregnated my dumb 16 yr old granddaughter.

He'll be hounded for years about child support.

52 posted on 08/31/2016 6:09:28 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Trump20162020

LoL, bad example.

I’d shoot a 20 year old, too!


53 posted on 08/31/2016 6:13:00 PM PDT by donna (No one should be allowed to become a citizen or even a resident if they support Sharia Law.)
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To: freedumb2003
>>A 31-year-old man found himself running from bullets after a mother found him in her 16-year-old daughter’s bedroom, police say.<< A 31 YO pedophile is not a MAN by any definition.

a 31 year old, chasing a 16 year old does not qualify as a pedophile.

54 posted on 08/31/2016 6:13:48 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: LouieFisk

Can’t smoke or drink alcohol but can have sex .
School nurses can take girls to abortion clinics and parents have no say.
Parents can be jailed if kids miss school though.

The laws are insane.

If on the jury I find mom not guilty.And not liable for medical bills.


55 posted on 08/31/2016 6:16:52 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: donna

16yo isn’t exactly a child ... but Good Lord, the ‘man’ is old enough to be her father. He’s a sicko and a psycho ... Mama wants me on her jury.


56 posted on 08/31/2016 6:17:41 PM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: Hugin
Biologically speaking a 16 year old is not a child. Being attracted to one doesn’t make someone a pedophile. Through most of human history the majority of women were married by 16. It may be creepy, but using the term in this case trivialized true pedophilia.

I agree that this slinging of 'pedophile' trivializes the real thing; and you're absolutely correct to note that through history most women were married before 17.

We should also note it wasn't exactly uncommon for an arranged marriage (which a lot of historical marriages were) to have such age-disparities, it would even make sense that parents would prefer older men (say 25 or 30 [+10 or +15 years]) to age-parity precisely because the older would have more time to get established and be less rash/impulsive than a comparable 16 or 17 y/o man.

57 posted on 08/31/2016 6:27:17 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Edward.Fish
I agree that this slinging of 'pedophile' trivializes the real thing; and you're absolutely correct to note that through history most women were married before 17.

The exact formula today to avoid the creepy, icky charge is 1/2 your age +7.

58 posted on 08/31/2016 6:30:31 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Trump20162020
Looks like the majority of States's age of consent is 16, interesting.
Maybe they should just lower the age of majority to 16 and repeal alcohol and tobacco age-restrictions (or at lest tie them to the age of majority); it'd sure keep things nice and uniform as far as special ages are concerned.
59 posted on 08/31/2016 6:35:34 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: Snickering Hound
The exact formula today to avoid the creepy, icky charge is 1/2 your age +7.

I'd seen that formulation around somewhere before; I didn't know it was for avoid creepy.
In any case I was merely commenting on the historical conditions of marriage rather than the contemporary.

60 posted on 08/31/2016 6:38:41 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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