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Posted on 05/06/2016 9:57:00 PM PDT by LucyT
And of course, since that is the case, how is that when the camera slides over to the right, there's Dolliana sitting vertically, exhibiting no motion, hugging the right edge of that same seat? Hmmm?
4:22:30pm HST would have been written 162230, but add 10 hours to the Prime Meridian and one gets 262230 hours, modulo 24, yielding 022230 on Dec. 12 (the next day). In that transcript, it got translated for humans "somewhat" as 2:22:30. Thanks for asking!
For the same reasons that Rosa Key, Loretta Fuddy and Marilyn Briley are clearly hugging the aisle side of the seats.
The seats are very narrow. Any manikin next to Jacob Key would have to be either in the isle or half way up the window. No other options.
Maybe every passenger had a manikin sitting next to them. That's it there were only animatronic mannequins on the plane. No real people.
In #11, Mr Briley’s shoulder and arm, and Yamamoto’s arm and leg, overhang the seat left sides the same amount as Mr Key’s arm.
Also seen in cabin view:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3428362/posts?page=117#117
Briley and Yamamoto didn’t have anything next to them to their right.
And neither did Mr Key.
That "might" be interesting if it were a picture of the inside of the Cessna Grand Caravan that crashed off Kalaupapa, but since it isn't, what you're doing must clearly be labeled "trying to deceive!" Surely you could have found some plane that at least had headrests!
What you've shown might as well be the inside of a subway car, or a Disney ride, or a Yugo.
Whatever possessed you to try to deceive us all this way? is that just the way you all do it at DU?
This picture is of the inside of N687MA. Look at those wide seats! 
Back...and to the left....
Back....and to the left.....
Back....and to the left....
All Grand Caravans are exactly the same width in the cabins aft of the pilots seats - 5.2 ft. And FAA aisle-width requirement for a 208 configured for 9 passengers is a minimum of 12”.
You simply declaring the seats are wide is the same as you declaring the blur over Jake Key’s shoulder can only be a manikin. Nonsense.
Good one.
What's nonsense is your beating one sliver of evidence as if it were a dead horse when there's copious other supporting evidence as well, as shown in post #298, regarding Dolliana. All that you've left untouched, though you have whipped out that technical term, 'blur', which more correctly applies to your own arguments than mine. What plausible alternative do you have for what that "blur" is?
You've effectively countered nothing in the other twenty or so graphics and background I've put up, all of which show this event to be an incredibly brazen conspiracy, involving some (undeservedly) well-reputed government groups and complicit co-conspirators.
The "theory" about these events includes several proven facts that show many to have engaged in fraud and cost others (including taxpayers) scores of millions of dollars!
You're a one-trick pony and you play it to the hilt, ignoring everything else. The preponderance of the evidence should dozens of posts ago have suggested you're playing for the guilty, losing team, but I guess you knew that and would be cleave to them, come what may.
The incident was a well-planned, intricate H O A X in which there was no catastrophic engine failure and in which Ms Fuddy didn't die--among other copious falsehoods and misrepresentations, for which people should be indicted for lying to federal officials, fired from their government jobs (for those in government, that weren't simply following lawful orders) and go to jail once they're judged guilty by a court!
All WH57 has done as far as I can see is shown that he can't find the dummy, and as a consequence, neither can I. If you are planning to make this stick, you'll have to convince.
I do resent that. Just because you haven't been able to convince everyone there's a dummy there, doesn't make them guilty of anything.
Your tactics are beginning to glare. Like the sunlight shining on Key's cap and hair.
“...all of which show this event to be an incredibly brazen conspiracy, involving some (undeservedly) well-reputed government groups and complicit co-conspirators.”
Like:
All the passengers and pilot on the Cessna.
Coast Guard Rescue swimmers and helicopter pilots and other unknown at this time personnel.
Maui Fire Rescue crews
Maui police Department
Molokai Hospital personnel
Priest who gave Fuddy last rites
Ambulance Personnel
Medical Examiner
All the people who attended Fuddy’s open casket funeral
The two Hawaiian television stations which shot video of Fuddy’s open casket funeral
Marine salvage crews who recovered the plane.
FAA and NTSB investigators
Pratt and Whitney
and that doesn’t include all the anonymous ninja frogmen at the crash site.
Okay that last one is just made up.
I’ll ask it again. Maybe one of these days you’ll actually answer the question: What happened to Jake’s ponytail? Why is there not straight black hair sticking down below the bottom of his cap any more, like there was when we saw him on the aisle side of the neckrest?
Unless there’s a shot of the whole seat we would not expect to see 2 heads.
And of course, everybody has just ignored the hand hanging down that could not be Jake, Puentes, or Rosa...
Buried in an open coffin, and nobody noticed she was a dummy...
Sorry butter, I know this is your image, but the idea that these people attended a funeral for a plastic replica of the Hawaii Director of Health just doesn't convince me the woman is still alive living somewhere in luxury with a new face and slim body. It's preposterous. Imo, if that engine was tampered with, they were all meant to die.
What happned to Jake's pony tail...why is there not straight black hair sticking down below the bottom of his cap anymore...?
A couple of days after the event, he was interviewed and photographed in the street. His long hair is almost ginger, it's visible in the photograph. You can see the same when you look at him sitting on the wing of the aircraft. The hair close to his head is dark, what hangs down is a different colour. I take it that on the aircraft, he has bunched his hair up under his cap, and it's the ends that are showing. Be that as it may, when you come down to proving your case by the colour of one person's hair in shade and in bright sunlight, and the impossible to locate hand that appears to be floating out of nowhere...you can't, and you can't allow your sidekick, to infer we are in collusion with criminals, fools or blind. Take a deep breath and ask yourself, why are you both so exasperated? Is it because you know you haven't put up a convincing argument? So let me ask you, how far do you think sticks and stones will get you?
Show us the dummy. Not just Key's hair and cap, and not just a hand that we cannot see what or who it is attached to.
Nothing unusual about Jacob Key's hair, it's simply dark at the roots and lighter at the ends, as the above image, and the photograph taken in the street, shows.
I’ve been guilty of a fair amount of speculation myself over time, and been severely chastised for it. Each time, I’ve done my best to explain my reasons and provide what evidence I could get my hands on.
I know how frustrating it is, when no one can see what I think I can see.
But I have never been guilty of creating graphics from bits and pieces of disjointed visuals and then badgering and harassing the audience by telling them they are blind idiots, or criminal conspirators.
Our erstwhile FRiends are going to have to do what we ask. It’s that simple.
Show whose body the hand is attached to.
Show the dummy sitting next to Jacob Key.
And I’ll take it as a bonus if I’m shown the dummy exiting the aircraft. Maybe it went down when the plane sank and dummy and Elvis are down there sleeping with the fishes...
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