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Hawaii Official Who Died After Crash Wore Infant Life Vest
AssociatedPress ^ | May 5, 2016, 8:31 PM ET | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

Posted on 05/06/2016 9:57:00 PM PDT by LucyT

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To: 4Zoltan

Wow, those sure are fuzzy, murky, indistinct pictures!
And on the basis of that you would insult people? Wow.


541 posted on 09/01/2016 4:28:57 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: WildHighlander57; 4Zoltan; Fred Nerks
The person you're describing to the back and rear of the pilot is Marilyn Briley, who, at the time was wearing the buoyant electronics package that everyone else in the world but you three plus not-so-humblegunner will properly recognize as yet another piece of military diver gear conspicuously found at the scene. That image will be seen in post #526. That's why one doesn't see very much of her large buoyant-package life jacket above the water line. It got there by being extracted from the piece of black-and-yellow baggage. Now how convenient and unexpected is it that one would find a combo electronics package that doubles as a life vest in your "average " piece of passenger baggage? Hmmmm?

The orange metal tool(s) seen fore of the starboard wing from underwater are further evidence that everyone else will recognize as having been placed there by people that were not the hapless, unplanned-accident passengers.

The 10-foot long green object seen against the side of the plane just as it "coincidentally" was being otherwise inexplicably raised ever higher in the water could not have been debris blown by the wind because the wind was out of the east. The debris field was entirely to the west.

542 posted on 09/01/2016 5:04:15 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: WildHighlander57

That’s Rosa’s left hand. The other was a right hand.


543 posted on 09/01/2016 6:21:24 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx; 4Zoltan; Fred Nerks

1) While puentes is sitting, the left hand grabs the seat.

2) While puentes is standing the right hand extends into the field of view.

The sequence in the video is 1) then 2); I said so in my post.

Also, during both 1) and 2), Rosa is using both hands to open her vest.

And puentes is using both hands to hold the camera and/or open his vest; right arm is not grabbing seat back.

And Mr Key is already past both of them on his way to the door.


544 posted on 09/01/2016 6:33:10 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: 4Zoltan

I do not say that the hand could not belong to anybody but Dolliana, since Yamamoto’s leg is visible in one of the images.

I do say that multiple people were standing because I see them above the water with lifejackets not touching the water. And I know what one of the passengers told an interviewer which confirms that they were standing. I don’t know if that’s been disclosed yet so that’s all I’ll say.

I also saw the bathymetric chart that rx presented showing a depth of 1 meter near there. And I saw the image evidence that the plane was tipping on a fulcrum.

There’s a LOT of stuff that hasn’t yet been disclosed, and it will reveal just how desperately you folks are picking and choosing what you address and what you ignore.

Where did Marilyn Briley get that “lifejacket” that was holding her up - that she was holding onto underwater, with the phallus shape sticking out between her legs? And what was it for? Why did she have that instead of the lifejacket that Hollstein claims he put on her in the plane before she exited? And where on the video do we see her acquire that piece of equipment?


545 posted on 09/01/2016 7:23:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Fred Nerks; WildHighlander57; 4Zoltan; little jeremiah; bushwon; rodguy911
I'm sure you're well-enough-schooled. despite claim of being Australian, to recognize the origin of this:
* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.


Concessions, smessions!   Here's some of the other gear not-so-humblegunner's friends left behind. Or did you think one of the passengers crawled up onto the trailing edge of the port wing root to mount that antenna? And in the upper right are not your everyday kind of fish. They're part of an underwater voice communications network. Their differential size "tail" antennae speak to the electronics world that they function in both transmit and receive frequencies. Oh, and of course they need an above-water antenna, just like the one on the port wing to transmit through the air, as underwater devices are still somewhat limited in that respect.

The orange-and-black device that was seen at the leading edge of the starboard wing (mid-right) didn't get there by any passenger that thought it would be a good idea "for just such an emergency."   People that deal forthrightly with evidence recognize whose tools such things are. The enlarged whites-of-his-eyes from a ranking Navy guy told me all I needed to know as I showed him Puentes' published image, similar to this one.

While your obvious disruption activities would attempt to denigrate by posting colorful, irrelevant and ridiculous cartoons, I'm here to inform those that might truly be listening and want to deal with the evidence of what went on in this hoax that reduced the spending of many customers of aviation companies I dearly want to succeed. The reputations of those companies have been besmirched by this hoax. Their shareholders have lost value.   But you'll go ahead with your DU-apologetics and interference. It's what you do; it's who you are. (No, sorry, that doesn't include everybody that was pinged to this post!)

These five images above show items that could not have appeared as a result of passenger activity. That brownish shroud in the lower right did not wash up onto the plane any more than did the 10' slip-n-slide less than 30-seconds earlier, each to disappear under the water less than 10 seconds later. After they disappeared, they're not seen floating past the plane on any eastward current or wave (as was claimed). They're never seen again (in the video).

Let's not forget that these sightings occurred well after the 25-minute post-ditching "sinking" juncture at which the passengers said they left the plane area. The sightings also occurred 20+ minutes before the on-scene helicopter rescuers appeared on-scene.

It's too bad the guys that brought these items weren't given any orders that would have aided those from among the passengers that were severely injured. It certainly would have been the humane thing to do.

546 posted on 09/01/2016 7:42:24 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: butterdezillion; 4Zoltan; WildHighlander57; Fred Nerks; little jeremiah; bushwon; rodguy911

Much as these passengers would tell falsehoods about being a mile-and-a-half from shore, or even 500 yards from shore, the pre-planned nature of this exercise tells us, just as the salvage company owner said, "The plane was found 200-300 yards from shore," very near where it first when down.

And within 200-300 yards from shore, as Butterdezillion alluded, was an area very near to the point of ditching where the NTSB's bathymetric map shows the bottom to have been a mere 1 meter deep. From that point, the passengers could have swum if not walked to shore.

The satellite image above middle shows the bottom had alternating very shallow areas that contained some sunken pools. A person could be videoed with 20' of blue water apparently all around, then moments later with two dog-paddle efforts, be standing on the ocean floor to rest from any stress or acting.

In the four, upper-left images, we see Flip is able to stand in many places throughout the scenario, spanning from the very first few minutes after ditching to an hour later, as he walks the last 30 yards to dry land.

In the image immediately below that of Rosa in the upper left image, we see Flip Hollstein had no trouble keeping 12-14” of his torso above water while standing straight up, just five yards or so from the airplane

The Deputy Health Director is seen in the lower left two pictures to be able to stand while he was within inches of Ms Fuddy. Also knowing that skilled, professional, US Navy-trained divers were just yards away, would that be a place one could expect to be fearful, hyperventilate and have a cardiac episode?

In the lower middle, see how much of her body Rosa Key is able to keep above the water line! Knowing of the nearby presence of US Navy divers and how the HDOH DD could stand so near to Ms Fuddy should tell us all we need to know and whatever else was left to guess about how stressful this scenario needed to be for Ms Fuddy.

Though Mrs. Key was quoted in the media, saying she and her husband were badly shaken and traumatized during the event, there’s also a lot of evidence to the contrary in the videos.

On the lower right we see images of the videographer being able to stand on the ocean floor as well.

In one interview, Passenger Bruce Briley—who never was said to have made it near shore—was asked how the ocean floor there was to stand on; he said, without hesitation, “Squishy.” (See him standing just to the right of the middle of the collage, while he was just a few yards from the plane. How do you suppose the world will think he was able to keep two foot of his torso above water?

Though Hollstein choose to walk the final yards to shore, the Keys, the videographer and Yamamoto just waited near shore to be helicoptered out of the water, despite there being evidence they could touch bottom, and that they, too, could have walked out, if they’d been so inclined.

It took one helicopter only 14 minutes to bring all four of those passengers (the videograph, the HDOH DD, and the two Keys) waiting in the shallows, one at a time, to shore.

547 posted on 09/01/2016 8:31:12 AM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3428362/posts?page=547#547

“....In one interview, Passenger Bruce Briley—who never was said to have made it near shore—was asked how the ocean floor there was to stand on; he said, without hesitation, “Squishy.” ...”

Could you post a link to this interview?


548 posted on 09/01/2016 12:08:48 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

No. The interviewer is a friend of mine.


549 posted on 09/01/2016 1:10:53 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: butterdezillion
Marilyn had certainly had a verve for what she was doing.

The only way she would have strapped on that "sporty" combo life jacket and electronics package would have been if she had been informed thereof in advance. By design and fit, it kept Marilyn afloat quite nicely while its uncircumcised tip/antenna stayed just above the water-line.

Similarly, her husband (bottom right) tended to that package with foreknowledge as it was being transformed (lower-left two pictures). He would have to know that it was to become Marilyn's life jacket after the group left the plane area.

The reader will recall that it was seen under the raised tail of the aircraft (middle picture) as the videographer first stood on the ladder to exit. Hence, that to-be-unfolded package that would become a well-used prop in the scenario was on-scene within seconds of the ditching, which could only have been achieved by design and pre-planning.

The contents of the baggage pod were exploded out of that space as the right front of the pod broke open upon hitting the water as the plane traveled at 80+kts. The contents were expelled by a rush of 70+kt water that ejected them through the aft port baggage door (seen below, middle left), then behind the plane. This happened within the first second or two as the airplane settled onto the water. Either that, or maybe you'll opt to say the plane hit something solid as "it came to abrupt stop" in Flip Hollstein's words.

 
The pristine, very light "passenger bag" doesn't float away or blow way in the currents or winds, despite passenger claims concerning conditions. The combo life jacket /electronics package that floated right atop the water (80% above water) while ostensibly carrying 40+lbs of luggage would not be sitting for minutes on its own, just below tail section.

Neither did such a bag did not come from the baggage pod. Bruce's, the pilot's and Marilyn's highly-choreographed moves with that special bag show that it obviously an integral part in the pre-planned activity of the ditching aftermath. It neither could have been left to chance that the passengers would extract it from the baggage pod, or do "the odds" allow that it would be the only bag from among several that didn't eject in a trail tens of yards to hundreds of yards behind the airplane. That could only have happened as a result of planning, before an accidental engine failure could have been anticipated. No other piece of baggage that came from the pod was seen near the airplane.

550 posted on 09/01/2016 1:18:59 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rx
I've got the message,

LORETTA FUDDY IS ALIVE IN ARGENTINA She's living in Hitler's old house.

551 posted on 09/01/2016 3:24:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

There you go again!
Rule 5, I get it.
It’s what you do.
It’s who you are.


552 posted on 09/01/2016 4:53:49 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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