Posted on 10/29/2015 3:22:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Samos was also the birthplace of Aristarchus of Samos, whose heliocentric theory (that the earth and planets circle around the sun instead of everything circling around the earth) was known to Copernicus.
Imagine piloting a ship around there in the old days. Man, you could get lost in a hurry.
Very Interesting; thanks!
If you homeschool .... Bob’s *JASON Project* is a must. If it doesn’t ignite kids....I don’t know what will. ;)
Yes, indeed -- a very important point!
I emphasized Pythagoras, because I include a submodule on Pythagoras and "his" "3, 4, 5 triangle" in my unit on "Archaeology for Fourth Grade"... (Even today's archaeologists use the principle for laying out precisely square excavation grids...)
But, then I "blow the Greek out of the water" by showing that Amenhotep in Egypt beat Pythagoras to it by over a millennium -- when he used the same "triangle" for laying out the Pyramids... '-)
I like to turn on sirens.
Toss in darkness, fog, and — heaven forbid!— a storm, and I wouldn’t want to be in those waters in a modern warship...
I’ve found that the hard part is turning them off! :-)
I think the problem is, the archaeologists doing this are landlubbers. It’s much more likely that these islands were hidey holes, both for pirates and for ships trying to elude pirates. The same kind of landlubber mindset produces howlers like, “ancient sailors hugged the coastline” — y’know, the coastline, where 99% of the dangerous shoals are.
The Turks had at least one rail tunnel under the strait, I believe, and over the past ten-fifteen years have been digging a newer system that will take much more traffic volume. In the process of this, they’ve turned up ancient ships, wharves, etc, and other ancient sites that had to be rescue-dug.
The bridging of the straits in ancient times was accomplished at least twice by the Persians, hmm, maybe three times, using pontoon bridges. They built a bridge for the Greek war, the one that included the militarily insignificant Thermopylae but was answered decisively at Salamis. The Persians also bridged it for their campaign into Scythia, which turned out to be a huge waste of their time, because the Scythians lived in the saddle, and would just bug out when they saw the cloud of dust. As the winter started to close in, the Persians marched out as fast as their feet would carry them. Odd that neither Napoleon nor the WWI and WWII Germans didn’t learn from this.
He’d probably be *more* successful if he’d campaign from a chaise lounge on an Aegean beach.
Those sirens could sink me and they wouldn’t even have to sing too well.
That is under the Bosporus, not the Dardanelles, which is 140 miles to the southeast of the Bosporus across the Sea of Marmara.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/01/0110_030113_blacksea_2.html
Radiocarbon analysis of fish bone samples taken from the amphora conducted at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, indicated that the bones were between 2,490 and 2,280 years old. The analysis also confirmed the age of the shipwreck. (Wood samples were also gathered at the site of the shipwreck. However, radiocarbon analysis indicated that the wood was modern, most likely trash that drifted onto the site.)
Questions remain about the olive pits and resin also found inside the amphora, however, and whether or not the amphora was reused to ship various trade goods. Amphorae most often carried wine and olive oil. Resin was used to coat the vessels' interiors to prevent leakage.
"The key was that inside this particular amphora there were olive pits. So the question [is], was there olive oil? Or was it justâ¦residual from a previous shipment?" Ballard said.
Maelstrom.
A song comes to mind.
Tales of Brave Ulysses
https://youtu.be/u8hLc_nqx8g
And the colors of the sea blind your eyes with trembling mermaids,
And you touch the distant beaches with tales of brave Ulysses:
How his naked ears were tortured by the sirens sweetly singing,
For the sparkling waves are calling you to kiss their white laced lips.
The Italian navy?
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