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Suitcase nukes closer to fiction than reality
ABC News ^ | 10/06/2015

Posted on 10/07/2015 8:44:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Members of Congress have warned about the dangers of suitcase nuclear weapons. Hollywood has made television shows and movies about them. Even the Federal Emergency Management Agency has alerted Americans to a threat — information the White House includes on its website.

But government experts and intelligence officials say such a threat gets vastly more attention than it deserves. These officials said a true suitcase nuke would be highly complex to produce, require significant upkeep and cost a small fortune.

Counterproliferation authorities do not completely rule out the possibility that these portable devices once existed. But they do not think the threat remains.

"The suitcase nuke is an exciting topic that really lends itself to movies," said Vahid Majidi, the assistant director of the FBI's Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate. "No one has been able to truly identify the existence of these devices."

Majidi and other government officials say the real threat is from a terrorist who does not care about the size of his nuclear detonation and is willing to improvise, using a less deadly and sophisticated device assembled from stolen or black-market nuclear material.

Yet Hollywood has seized on the threat. For example, the Fox thriller 24 devoted its entire last season to Jack Bauer's hunt for suitcase nukes in Los Angeles.

Government officials have played up the threat, too.

Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., once said at a hearing that he thought the least likely threat was from an intercontinental ballistic missile. "Perhaps the most likely threat is from a suitcase nuclear weapon in a rusty car on a dock in New York City," he said.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; jihad; kgb; lebanon; nukes; patricelumumbaschool; russia; suitcase; waronterror
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1 posted on 10/07/2015 8:44:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

A more technical discussion of the technology needed to build a suitcase nuke can be found here:

http://www.gizmag.com/suitcase-nukes-fact-or-fiction/18506/

Are ‘suitcase nukes’ a genuine concern?


2 posted on 10/07/2015 8:45:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/01/30/the-littlest-boy/


3 posted on 10/07/2015 8:46:23 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Truck nukes are far more likely and doable.


4 posted on 10/07/2015 8:46:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Suitcase nukes closer to fiction than reality”

*YAWN*

Twelve years ago at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/857060/posts


5 posted on 10/07/2015 8:48:08 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone might want to call the Pentagon about this. They are going to be very surprised to hear the W54 is an act of fiction.


6 posted on 10/07/2015 8:49:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SeekAndFind

The way I understand it, a “suitcase nuke” would weigh about 200 lbs. and require regular maintenance (replacing tritium, etc.) to keep it ready.
It is doable, though. We have nukes we can shoot from artillery pieces.


7 posted on 10/07/2015 8:50:11 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind
I am 65 years old. I am sad to say, that due to corruption and mis management by our Government A-holes, I predict that during my lifetime there WILL BE A NUCLEAR DETONATION somewhere in our nation.
8 posted on 10/07/2015 8:51:21 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: SeekAndFind

Google W-54 and SADM. 50 Kg was doable for a 2 man team.


9 posted on 10/07/2015 8:51:44 AM PDT by zek157
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To: SeekAndFind

“Majidi”?

Hmmmmm


10 posted on 10/07/2015 8:52:05 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: SeekAndFind

With open borders you don’t need a suitcase. A semi would do nicely.


11 posted on 10/07/2015 8:52:07 AM PDT by Lake Living
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To: cripplecreek

Nuclear handgrenade weighs in at 75 lbs.
It works but needs “development”, Scientists say.


12 posted on 10/07/2015 8:53:23 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Perhaps the most likely threat is from a suitcase nuclear weapon in a rusty car on a dock in New York City,"

If it's in a rusty car, it doesn't need to be as small as a suitcase - trunk-sized would do nicely.

If you expand "car" to include "light truck", and especially vans, then you can effectively hide a much larger device than a suitcase.
13 posted on 10/07/2015 8:55:59 AM PDT by chrisser (This space for rent.)
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To: tet68

What our government can produce is orders of magnitude different from what a few jihadi goat rapists could pull off in a garage. That doesn’t mean a nation like Iran won’t be able to supply something reasonably advanced in a few years.


14 posted on 10/07/2015 9:02:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: chrisser

And if you conceal one on a ship during a yard period unknown to the crew except for one, maybe two? Certainly a dockside crane could lift more than 200 lbs or 2,000 lbs.


15 posted on 10/07/2015 9:04:59 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: MNJohnnie
They are going to be very surprised to hear the W54 is an act of fiction.

The Soviets had their version of the small atomic demolition munition as well.

16 posted on 10/07/2015 9:12:12 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: tet68

Is there really a nuclear hand grenade? How could you possibly throw one far enough to stay out of its blast radius?


17 posted on 10/07/2015 9:21:24 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: MNJohnnie
"All four variants share the same basic core: a nuclear system which is 10.75 inches diameter (270 mm), about 15.7 inches long (400 mm), and weighs around or slightly over 50 pounds (23 kg)."

"The Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM) was a family of man-portable nuclear weapons fielded by the US military in the 1960s, but never used in combat."


18 posted on 10/07/2015 9:28:53 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: CommerceComet

That’s a design flaw, we can fix that with enough
funding.


19 posted on 10/07/2015 9:30:06 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Right you are. They got this small:

This one's a 20 ton yield. The "device" version got up to 1 KT. Cute little bugger, ain't it?

20 posted on 10/07/2015 9:31:00 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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