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Some Facts on Cecil the Lion Hunt
gunwatch.blogspot.com ^ | 7/30/2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/30/2015 9:58:54 AM PDT by rktman

I found this on the popular site accuratereloading.com. It adds facts, texture and nuance to the emotion floating about out there. Remember that Zimbabwe is one of the most corrupt regimes in the world. From Zimbabwe Wildlife Conservation:

We have been following these threads with great interest. we emphasize we are advocates of "sustainable utilization " as a conservation tool , some Basic facts that have been verified by several reliable and credible sources :-

The operator / professional hunters in question had a valid TR2 form stamped by the Zimbabwe parks & wildlife authority. This form once stamped allows a hunt to take place."authority to hunt"

Each and every property or hunting concession to be hunted by the registered operator/client / professional hunter during the course of conducting the hunt must be recorded on this TR2 form

All hunting Quota's are issued by Zimbabwe parks Authority, and ARE AREA SPECIFIC!!! The property in question where the lion was hunted is "Antonette", which incidentally was legally owned by Peter Johnston /Rosslyn Safaris, and was taken without compensation during the land grab. This could get

Any off take of animals be it for cropping,management or trophy hunting purposes has to be applied for and approved. The land owner is then issued with a "quota" which is valid from 01/01 -31/12 of each year. Few clients fully understand the different land classifications Zimbabwe has for its hunting industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at gunwatch.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; biggame; cecilthelion; trophyhunts
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To: rktman
An African lion is shot dead and an official representing the lying African in the White House comments.

American citizen Kate Steinle is shot dead and the lying African remains silent.

Think about that.

41 posted on 07/30/2015 12:02:36 PM PDT by South40 (Rafael Edward Cruz 2016!)
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To: Macoozie

Lol. Yeah I thought about that after I wrote it.


42 posted on 07/30/2015 12:09:10 PM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: Sacajaweau
Holy crap!

"In October 1926, at age 72, Eastman returned from his first safari in East Africa. It was no small affair. ... At its height, the Eastman party included 13 cars, 80 African natives, 28 camels, and five mules. The hunters killed more than 100 animals, including gazelles, cheetahs, lions, rhinoceroses, and impalas. Eastman bagged his limit of five lions, including one that stood its ground to protect a lioness and two cubs."

43 posted on 07/30/2015 12:15:18 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Buffalo Head
Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Anything I don't know how to do must be easy.

44 posted on 07/30/2015 12:25:31 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: SW6906
Rochester was my hometown. I was told that Eastman was a real louse to his employees. As usual, it was all about money. AND he committed suicide.

I believe the elephant head is in the Eastman House along with other trophies....unless they have been removed to be more PC.

45 posted on 07/30/2015 12:52:09 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Tau Food
Right now, people are talking about him as if he's not even human.

You think the MSM and the anti-firearm/hunter population really care? They don't want to know the truth......

And in their minds, George Zimmerman is STILL guilty......Unfortunately for Mr. Palmer, he spent approx. $55,000 on a lion that humans stupidly named Cecil.......

Cecil the Lion outrage is Huge Nonsense

Nobody cared that Larry the Wildebeast was killed the week before......

46 posted on 07/30/2015 12:53:24 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (<i>)
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To: Hot Tabasco
You think the MSM and the anti-firearm/hunter population really care? They don't want to know the truth......

I think he probably cares about the fact that people are talking about him as if he's not human. See, I'm suggesting that he step forward so that he can improve his situation, not your situation. His life is probably pretty miserable right now.

47 posted on 07/30/2015 1:13:41 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
See, I'm suggesting that he step forward

I understand what you are saying but you have conveniently ignored the analogy that I posted to you before. There's not a damn thing Mr. Palmer can say that will alleviate the attention the MSM has thrown on him.

So stop beating the dead horse.

If you wish to be a member of his PR team, that's fine but don't try to convince me because I've already aired my comments..........Thanks

48 posted on 07/30/2015 2:23:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (<i>)
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To: Tau Food; All

“Right now, it seems that he probably wanted to put a lion’s head on his wall because he thought that the trophy might somehow bolster his image as a man - that it might make him seem more masculine than he thinks people are viewing him now. I think he was hoping that people who see the trophy might think that he had earned it by engaging in acts of personal courage by challenging and defeating a dangerous predator. You know, there are people who buy and wear service medals that they didn’t earn. People do a lot of weird things for a lot of weird reasons. Traveling halfway around the world to kill a defenseless lion seems so pointless, so gratuitous. But, he must have had some kind of reason.

Anyway, his actual motives might be completely different. Maybe he just hates animals.”

This comment is so gratuitous, so clueless, so over the top that I believe that you actually believe it. If you wish to understand even a scintilla of a hunter’s motivation, here is a book for you to read:

http://www.amazon.com/Meditations-Hunting-Jose-Ortega-Gasset/dp/1885106181

Calling a 400 lb cat with big teeth and claws, who has fought his way to the top of a pride “defenseless”, is a clue that your assumptions about reality are suspect.

Lions are not cuddly little cartoon characters.


49 posted on 08/01/2015 11:21:27 AM PDT by marktwain
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here is a book for you to read:

I see. This guy has just trashed his whole life and your conclusion is that I should read a book full of hunting psychobabble.

Look, what this guy has done may seem like good sense to you, but I don't think he agrees with you anymore. The whole incident was pointless, self-destructive and expensive. When he comes out of hiding, I want you to listen to what he says.

50 posted on 08/02/2015 10:02:16 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food

Yea sure. And give the press/ubummer some red meat to go after this guy? I’m sure his lawyer has said to just shut up. When you get in trouble with the law, I’d like to see you go to the press and spill your guts.


51 posted on 08/02/2015 10:11:41 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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