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http://www.Electoral College.org ^ | July 24, 2015 | HarleyLady27 none

Posted on 07/24/2015 12:14:09 PM PDT by HarleyLady27

I just read about the Electoral College....

(Excerpt) Read more at Electoral College.org ...


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KEYWORDS: dsj02; electoralcollege; voting
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To: gdani

If we were the United Federal State of America, then 1 person, 1 vote for President would be workable. But we’re not. 50 States need to (and do) have a voice in both the House and the Electoral College, based on their population. California is far more represented as a result of it’s population than Ohio or Montana, for example.


21 posted on 07/24/2015 12:31:18 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Old Sarge
BUT, since he won 75% of the Noo Yawk vote, he has the numerical majority vote even after losing all other states

Are you an idiot? George McGovern won one state. He didn't become president. You cannot win the presidency by winning only one state.

22 posted on 07/24/2015 12:31:46 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: gdani

If you want to abolish the EC, why not replace it with a system that would generate higher utility than popular voting, such as the Condorcet method?


23 posted on 07/24/2015 12:34:22 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: HarleyLady27

If the electoral process still worked the way our founders intended, you wouldn’t be voting for Cruz, Clinton, Bush, Sanders, Walker, Trump or anyone else. You would be voting for somebody local that you trusted as a person of sound judgement. THAT person would then cast a vote in your behalf.


24 posted on 07/24/2015 12:35:01 PM PDT by Walrus (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice - Barry Goldwater)
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To: HarleyLady27

Yes, that’s true about the Electoral College. Hillary is going to lose to Walker.


25 posted on 07/24/2015 12:36:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
As a resident of the People’s Republic of CA, I can only wish we were completely ignored when it comes to electing a POTUS.

By that, I meant California is not a swing state & everyone knows the Democrat will take it. So, you get nowhere near the attention, campaign commercials, mail, people knocking on doors, etc we get here in Ohio. Same with Texas - everyone knows the Republican will win so why worry about what Texas wants?

In that sense, Iowa & New Hampshire (primaries) & states like Ohio, Florida & Missouri rule presidential campaign season.

26 posted on 07/24/2015 12:36:45 PM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: HarleyLady27

I wanted to be an electrician but it was too hard, so I went to Barber College instead.


27 posted on 07/24/2015 12:38:37 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: HarleyLady27

I believe that one of the Greek city/states tried running a true democracy. The people got together and voted on every issue.

One day, they were having a big argument about whether cheddar cheese is better on a burger than American cheese and they voted on it and it was a dead-even tie.

And that’s how we got Swiss Burgers.


28 posted on 07/24/2015 12:38:47 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: gdani

Yes I know.

The candidates come here only to raise money.

So depressing is out here, in the last presidential election, my daughter and I went our local GOP HQ to do some volunteer work. They had us making phone calls to voters out of state.


29 posted on 07/24/2015 12:39:57 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: blueunicorn6

And I have no idea who voted to put mushrooms on a burger.

Probably a communist.


30 posted on 07/24/2015 12:40:22 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: FatherofFive

His point was that it could happen if the election were decided by popular vote. It can’t happen with the current Electoral College system.


31 posted on 07/24/2015 12:41:12 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: HarleyLady27

Also, when you vote in the presidential election, you vote for the electors for a particular candidate, not the candidates themselves.


32 posted on 07/24/2015 12:41:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (INTOLERANCE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27
As 'Diana in Wisconsin' stated, a good thing if only because the bad guys hate it.

But I would explain to your daughter that the Electoral College is the only thing that makes this an election for President of the "United States" as opposed to "America".

The EC means that we have 50+ separate elections for that office ( should be only 50 but that's another topic ). In easy to understand terms it is loosely comparable to having the "World Series" versus a "Super Bowl".

A baseball team could have a 15-0 blowout in one game but still be in it from a best of 7 standpoint, but popular vote idjits want to count all the runs from all 7 games and decide the Series that way.

It would lead to even more massive voter fraud as they pad the popular vote in the big city liberal cesspools, but worst of all, it literally is a way to stealthily eliminate the several states, and create a stateless nation.

33 posted on 07/24/2015 12:44:19 PM PDT by Democratic-Republican
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To: HarleyLady27

If the EC were abolished, the larger progressive populations of New York and California would rule forever.


34 posted on 07/24/2015 12:44:26 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: HarleyLady27
Does this Electoral College damage our voting rights?

I would say absolutely not.

I had questioned the wisdom of the Electoral College voting until I saw the USA Today County by County voting map for 2000 and 2004. The Electoral College vote demonstrates the founder's wisdom in a way that words could not.

It also illustrates the value of a Bicarmel Congress and exposes the basic flaw in questioning the founders’ wisdom by ratifying the 17th amendment.

I highly recommend your daughter, and perhaps you, read the Federalist Papers or better yet take the free on line courses offered by Hillsdale College. Your time will be well served.

35 posted on 07/24/2015 12:45:27 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

That is a pretty shorthanded way to end up with the correct answer, isn’t it?


36 posted on 07/24/2015 12:47:34 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: All
Just google "NPV" National Popular Vote movement and electoral college. George Soros is financing the NPV movement and he has the support of all lefties. That should give everyone pause.

The electoral college was designed to prevent large population centers from dominating national elections. If illegal immigration and the amnesty movement continue we wont even have to bother having elections.
37 posted on 07/24/2015 12:48:02 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
The Electoral College was established by our Founding Fathers. We were originally intended to be a limited government constitutional republic, not a popular mass democracy. And for good reason. You see what popular mass democracy has accomplished.

What he said

38 posted on 07/24/2015 12:48:08 PM PDT by onona (If I agree with something Donald says in a forest, and no one hears, am I still a "Trumper" ?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Some days I blather on and on. Others, I’m to the point. You caught me on A Good Day. :)


39 posted on 07/24/2015 12:54:34 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: HarleyLady27

I think you might really be asking about delegates at the convention?


40 posted on 07/24/2015 12:59:15 PM PDT by lacrew
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