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Donald Trump Will Allow Illegal Immigrants To Stay In U.S. On One Condition
Inquisitr ^ | Posted: June 28, 2015

Posted on 06/28/2015 6:06:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

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To: C. Edmund Wright

Neither has the concept of capitalism. If people won’t do a job for a wage, the business either raises the wage to market value or hires an illegal slave.

The presence of illegals means capitalism cannot EVER function as designed.


61 posted on 06/28/2015 7:06:14 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Well wages going up are not going to make lazy disinterested hipsters and ghetto bangers and so on interested in physical labor. It just isn’t.


Cut off the welfare. They can sink or swim on their own.


62 posted on 06/28/2015 7:06:43 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You are correct. The national average wage for a roofer is about 15 an hour now. And trying to get young white boys to work is not so easy.


63 posted on 06/28/2015 7:11:32 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Amnesty, thy name is Trump.


64 posted on 06/28/2015 7:11:49 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: cableguymn

YES YES YES...cut off the welfare....I’ve posted that a thousand times as a BIG BIG PART of the jobs/illegal immigration issue.

YES YES YES. That’s my point. Perhaps you didn’t see that...


65 posted on 06/28/2015 7:11:50 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Norm Lenhart

true, and the presence of overly generous welfare benefits MEANS THE SAME THING.


66 posted on 06/28/2015 7:12:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Kid Shelleen

When was that?


67 posted on 06/28/2015 7:12:42 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: cableguymn

that’s a nice thought. But 1995 called, and said get real.


68 posted on 06/28/2015 7:13:44 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"I have no patience for stupidity. To say that because it’s true in 1980 means it’s true today is just beneath adult conversation.

Hell, marriage changed in a day. Don’t tell me the entire employment situation hasn’t changed since 1980. My intelligence was insulted by the sheer idiocy of the idea."

Why are you so intent on belittling others on this forum?

We all have life experiences that form our opinions and we come to FR share and debate. I answered all your questions honestly based on what I have seen in my own life.

Not sure where I said the employment situation hasn't changed since 1980-the point I was making is that it DID change. I picked that time period because thats about when we started to notice large numbers of illegals begin to take over certain service industry and construction jobs.

My point was the idea some have that only illegals will do these jobs contributes to the problem of allowing illegals to flood our border. Not everyone is a hipster on EBT. Some of us still work hard in construction, hotel services, and landscaping.

I am so sorry your "intelligence was insulted" by engaging in debate with a fellow freeper. Feel free to refrain from engaging me in the future.

69 posted on 06/28/2015 7:14:08 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Lumper20

Must be an area thing because until we got invaded, AZ was paying less than that and had young guys of all colors lined up. After the invasion, wages dropped. People still lined up.

In AZ. In the summer.


70 posted on 06/28/2015 7:14:18 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’ll give your boy Trump credit here for at least one thing....which is that we have two entirely different illegal populations. Those that are here to work, and those that are here to suck on the welfare teat.

Say what you will about either, but it’s simply absurd not to recognize that they are different, and that one is far more disastrous than the other.


71 posted on 06/28/2015 7:14:58 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: icwhatudo

go back and read your initial post - and you’ll see that I correctly extrapolated your point about 1980. To bring it up the way you dean means something...and now you want to say, never mind, that’s not what I meant. Well, maybe - but it’s what you SAID initially, in context.


72 posted on 06/28/2015 7:16:31 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No it doesn’t. Welfare and illegals are very different subjects and have very different outcomes. It’s easier to get rid of one than the other depending on which party sits at the controls.

Some states have curbed welfare greatly but can’t overcome the courts on illegals.


73 posted on 06/28/2015 7:17:41 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: C. Edmund Wright
>> When was that? <<

Back in the 80's
74 posted on 06/28/2015 7:18:15 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: cableguymn

That is the answer. Welfare also attracts all these illegals. They have had books printed on our welfare bennies and how to get them in Asian countries for years. Mexico is up to speed also.


75 posted on 06/28/2015 7:18:25 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Of course. It was easy to do that...in the 80s. Starting in the mod to late 90s, depending on where you are, it became impossible. To use that as an example for today is meaningless.

I bet you can find contractors in business today, who were also in business in the 80s, and I bet their business and employee model is 180 degrees different.

If we could rewind to the 80s, a lot of things would be better.


76 posted on 06/28/2015 7:20:57 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Norm Lenhart

One can pick up day labor but other then that only Hispanics work in Nashville. There are exceptions. We are loaded with Mexicans now.


77 posted on 06/28/2015 7:22:49 AM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Its the best we are going to get. NONE of the GOP presidential candidates is advocating mass deportation. Trump and Cruz have the two best ideas. Of those two I think Trump really will secure the border with a wall or fence just to say he did it if nothing else.


78 posted on 06/28/2015 7:22:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: KC Burke
Where is the constitution and where is the rule of law.

Certainly not where the supreme court judges can easily lay their hands on it.

79 posted on 06/28/2015 7:23:45 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Lumper20
The national average wage for a roofer is about 15 an hour now. And trying to get young white boys to work is not so easy.

Your statement is contradictory. You can't set a price for labor and then search for workers. You have it set the price and the workers come to you. If 15/hr is not attracting any then you try 16/hr and so on. If yo set at 20/hr the labor will walk off the current job and come to you. I've seen it happen.

80 posted on 06/28/2015 7:25:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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