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Entries in long-hidden notebook show Pete Rose bet on baseball as player
ESPN ^ | June 22, 2015 | William Weinbaum and T.J. Quinn

Posted on 06/22/2015 11:33:01 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: dware
Lock him up! This monster deserves to rot, unforgotten in a damp, dark dungeon cell for his heinous crimes against society!!!! Lol

Nice hyperbole. No, he does not need to go to jail (unless his betting violated some local law), but he should not be bestowed with the greatest honor the league has.

21 posted on 06/22/2015 12:03:58 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: C19fan
1. This is a kids game. It is strictly entertainment.
It is neither less important nor more important in life than a family sitting around the table for a game of monopoly.

2. This was Forty years ago or more. Not only was it not of great importance at the time, many of the people it was important in any way to have grown old any dissemination died. Their little tempest in a teapot needs to die too.

3. In that era many of the players bet off the record. Back through the sixties the majority probably did. Big whoop. They generally bet on themselves and their friends to win.

4. Grow up. This level of acrimony over people paid huge sums to play children's games speaks of an enduring childishness that really grates on working people who adopted adult interests.

22 posted on 06/22/2015 12:03:59 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Ann Archy

He burned out his bullpen on the days he had money on the game and no so much when he didn’t. F-him!


23 posted on 06/22/2015 12:06:18 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: real saxophonist

Living in KC we had George Brett.

One of the biggest douche bags I ever had the oppertunity to meet 3 times. Every single time he was a condescending a—hole.


24 posted on 06/22/2015 12:06:38 PM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: MrEdd

I agree completely. Those folks who still want to see Pete Rose in the Baseball HOF should grow up! /sarc


25 posted on 06/22/2015 12:06:45 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: dware
Yes, because he was just SOOOOOOOOO horrible! I mean, gambling on a sport! Now, I could see it had he beat his wife in an elevator, but then again, if he had done that, it would be a non-issue. Book him, Danno! Lol.

No dweeb, gambling on games you're personally participating in.

Subtle difference, like the one between a blade of grass and a sledgehammer.

26 posted on 06/22/2015 12:10:43 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dware
This monster deserves to rot, unforgotten in a damp, dark dungeon cell for his heinous crimes against society!!!!

No dungeons needed...his misdeeds don't warrant any.They *do* warrant a permanent ban on entry into the HoF...as well as the permanent disdain of those who truly love the game.

27 posted on 06/22/2015 12:11:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Feelings Are Today's Truth,Truth Is Today's Blasphemy)
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To: C19fan
Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame.

Gambling was against the rules? Big, fat, hairy deal.

I'll never visit Cooperstown until MLB ends its vendetta against Pete Rose. The Baseball Hall of Fame has no legitimacy without Pete Rose as a member.

It's been long enough, and the hysterical bleating of the naive and mean-spirited purists has grown tiresome.

I guess these guys who juiced with steroids during the last 20 years belong in the HOF, because technically PED's weren't "against the rules" during that era?

Baseball is diminished without the presence of Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame. Period.

Proudly and Sincerely,

Pete Rose Apologist

28 posted on 06/22/2015 12:11:06 PM PDT by sargon
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To: sargon

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Pete shouldn’t be eligible for the HOF until he has served his lifetime ban.

And if it is true that he bet on the games AS A PLAYER, then he should not be eligible for the HOF until Shoeless Joe Jackson is eligible.


29 posted on 06/22/2015 12:14:20 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Gay State Conservative
as well as the permanent disdain of those who truly love the game.

And there ya have it. Must be my problem right there, because no way in hell can I get passionate about a kid's game played by adults who make far too much money. Enjoy that baseball game, booze and big screen TV. Never mind that America is burning. We need to keep Pete Rose out of the HoF!!!!

30 posted on 06/22/2015 12:22:58 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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To: dware
Never mind that America is burning.

This particular thread's about baseball.There are plenty of other threads about this country's perilous state.

31 posted on 06/22/2015 12:27:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Feelings Are Today's Truth,Truth Is Today's Blasphemy)
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To: Gay State Conservative
There are plenty of other threads about this country's perilous state.

Which make Pete Rose's HoF status completely and entirely irrelevant. But hey, who am I to judge?

32 posted on 06/22/2015 12:30:16 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are you going to do about it?)
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To: dware

If you’re not interested don’t click. Not a terribly difficult concept.


33 posted on 06/22/2015 12:31:01 PM PDT by discostu (In fact funk's as old as dirt)
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To: Daveinyork
“the United State has become a place where professional athletes and entertainers are mistaken for people of significance.”

Sad but true.

One should not confer on that actor the real wisdom of the writer simply because of the ability of an actor to parrot the words of writer convincingly of stage or screen.

We have all heard of stolen valor when a non-veteran assumes the mantel of a war hero, well actors assumes stolen wisdom when they assume the mantel of a political pundit and speak on controversial political topics.

34 posted on 06/22/2015 12:33:23 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Ransomed; Political Junkie Too

I agree with both of you that there are ways to bet against your team while still trying to win. That’s why I stated that Rose needed to be punished for breaking the rules - after all, betting nearly destroyed baseball in the Black Sox scandal. My real question is whether Rose should continue to be punished...and I think that he’s paid the price at this point in terms of both reputation and money. Others may disagree, and that’s OK - this is just my opinion.


35 posted on 06/22/2015 12:42:07 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: C19fan

Good. I figured if he was exonerated I would never again run into a HOF Rose at one of his numerous Las Vegas signings


36 posted on 06/22/2015 12:45:32 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: real saxophonist
He refused to sign a baseball for a fellow player's family member.

Never heard THAT before, how about giving us the whole story?

37 posted on 06/22/2015 12:52:19 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (War IS the answer! Peace activists never liberated anything or anyone....)
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To: Hot Tabasco

That IS the whole story. My brother and I got baseballs signed by the whole team except Rose. This was probably ‘79 or ‘80.


38 posted on 06/22/2015 12:56:28 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Youtube + Twitter + Facebook = YouTwitFace.com)
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To: real saxophonist

Consider it a blessing then. Since he was banned from baseball his signature on your ball would devalue it.......


39 posted on 06/22/2015 1:05:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (War IS the answer! Peace activists never liberated anything or anyone....)
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To: C19fan

I’m actually surprised they didn’t find this during the original investigation from the late 1980’s.


40 posted on 06/22/2015 1:11:23 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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