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Tim Tebow goes back to the basics with his mechanics
Fox Sports ^ | Jun 09, 2015

Posted on 06/11/2015 7:24:55 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom

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To: jeffersondem

Every NFL coach and owner knows that Tim Tebow is just one Christian testimony away from destroying their franchise. All Tebow has to do is to state that he believes marriage is between one man and one woman and all the demons in hell and the lamestream media will descend on the team. The owner may very well be forced to sell by the NFL. And that is the real reason no one wants to take a risk with Tebow.

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So why are the Eagles taking the chance?

The facts themselves pretty much contradict your assertion.


41 posted on 06/11/2015 10:53:12 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

“So why are the Eagles taking the chance?”

The exception proves the rule.


42 posted on 06/11/2015 11:01:50 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: usconservative

So the whole argument by Tebow supporters is bunk, and I say that as a baptized into Christ in 1999 Christian.

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Not all Tebow supporters. Some like me have been pointing out that he’s not as bad as some people believe.

I think Tebow could have improved a lot of teams as a starting QB, since he was traded by Denver. The problem is he doesn’t fit the systems of modern NFL teams, and the best Tebow doesn’t show up until the fourth quarter of a close game.


43 posted on 06/11/2015 11:02:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: gdani
“The Broncos were winning in spite of Tebow, not because of him.”

I was thinking Denver was 1-4 before Tebow started.

44 posted on 06/11/2015 11:14:37 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
And went 1-4 in Tebow's last 5 starts.
45 posted on 06/11/2015 11:22:18 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Moonman62
I think Tebow could have improved a lot of teams as a starting QB, since he was traded by Denver. The problem is he doesn’t fit the systems of modern NFL teams,

If Tebow doesn't fit the offensive scheme's of most modern NFL teams, exactly how could he have improved alot of teams as a starting QB? Those two statements just contradict each other.

I'm not a "Tebow hater" I just don't think he's NFL material. I don't think he WAS NFL material when the Bronco's then Jets had him on their rosters.

Now if he's working hard to improve his game and that's getting him a new look in the NFL, then I say good for him. Beyond that, like any other NFL player he'll survive in the league by putting up good numbers or he'll be out again.

That's on him. Always has been.

46 posted on 06/11/2015 11:29:23 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Is this the thread where people who don’t understand football argue that the only reason Tebow isn’t an NFL starter is because he’s an outspoken Christian?

Just the latest iteration.

47 posted on 06/11/2015 11:32:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: BubbaJunebug
Hmm...Trained by Tom House of Million Dollar arm fame

And before that Vinnie Testaverde was supposed to have gotten the kinks worked out of Tebow's mechanics. Then he went to the Patriots and lasted was cut before the season started.

48 posted on 06/11/2015 11:34:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ConservingFreedom
First you say: “The Broncos were winning in spite of Tebow, not because of him.”

Then you say about the quarterback's performance: “And went 1-4 in Tebow’s last 5 starts.”

I see what you did there.

Still, Tebow was 8-5 as a Denver starter, which is well above an average NFL quarterback. Of course to some, there are more important things than winning in the NFL.

49 posted on 06/11/2015 11:36:01 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

The exception proves the rule.

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Love it, how to answer when you don’t have one (an actual answer).


50 posted on 06/11/2015 11:40:35 AM PDT by dmz
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To: jeffersondem
With the Jets Tebow completed 75 percent of his passes.

He had six completions in eight attempts for thirty-nine yards over 12 games.

51 posted on 06/11/2015 11:51:02 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: dmz
So why are the Eagles taking the chance?

Because it costs them next to nothing. He signed a one-year, $660,000 contract with no signing bonus and no guaranteed money. As a veteram he'll make $1700 per week during training camp. If, and it's a huge if, Tebow makes the team then the Eagles have a heck of a deal. If he doesn't make the cut then the team is out less than $20,000 tops. That is petty cash for the Philadelphia.

52 posted on 06/11/2015 11:58:16 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: jeffersondem
Of course to some, there are more important things than winning in the NFL.

To an NFL team there is nothing more important than winnng.

53 posted on 06/11/2015 12:02:19 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
“He had six completions in eight attempts for thirty-nine yards over 12 games.”

It was the coach's decision to limit Tebow to 8 pass attempts - not Tebow’s. (One of the incompletions was a dropped pass; the other a throw-away to prevent a sack.)

Still, I have to respect the coach's decision to keep Tebow away from the ball and preserve the team's 6-10 season. Great call.

54 posted on 06/11/2015 12:04:57 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
First you say: “The Broncos were winning in spite of Tebow, not because of him.”

That wasn't me.

Then you say about the quarterback's performance: “And went 1-4 in Tebow’s last 5 starts.”

I see what you did there.

Yes, in theory Denver could have finished 1-4 despite Tebow. But in looking for factors that changed between his 7-1 start and his 1-4 finish, one thing leaps out: the unfamiliarity of Tebow's style of QBing, which of course declined with time and accumulating game tape. I'm certainly open to hearing alternative explanations for Denver's downward trend over those 13 games.

Still, Tebow was 8-5 as a Denver starter

More precisely, Denver was 8-5 with Tebow as a starter ... it remains a team game.

55 posted on 06/11/2015 12:07:11 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: jeffersondem
One of the incompletions was a dropped pass; the other a throw-away to prevent a sack.

And the 6 completions gave him an average YPC of only 6.5 - 67th out of the 68 QBs who completed a pass that year.

56 posted on 06/11/2015 12:09:19 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: jeffersondem
Still, I have to respect the coach's decision to keep Tebow away from the ball and preserve the team's 6-10 season. Great call.

True. Could have been 4-12 or 2-14 otherwise.

57 posted on 06/11/2015 12:15:04 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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“True. Could have been 4-12 or 2-14 otherwise.”

If that had happened, the coach would have soon been fired.


58 posted on 06/11/2015 12:20:34 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
If that had happened, the coach would have soon been fired.

Instead it took the Jets another what? Two years to fire Ryan?

59 posted on 06/11/2015 12:37:42 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: jeffersondem
I was thinking Denver was 1-4 before Tebow started.

Yeah, and they had to totally dumb down their offense to match his "skills".

60 posted on 06/11/2015 1:36:05 PM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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