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The Problem with Apple Watch in a Nutshell
Thurrott News and Analysis for Tech Enthusiasts ^ | April 27, 2015 | by Paul Thurrott

Posted on 04/28/2015 1:30:17 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Leep
I am holding out for a death laser app.

Will this do until that app comes out?

The Apple iGun 4S

41 posted on 04/28/2015 4:24:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Oh, it wasn’t Apple. It was a company like ThinkGeek, or something.

All it really was was a glorified bluetooth headset that looked and worked like a TOS communicator.


42 posted on 04/28/2015 4:24:43 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: Swordmaker
This article critical of an Apple product he admits he hasn't seen or used, but is willing to pan sight unseen is pretty good evidence, I think.

I've noticed many positive comments by people who have exactly the same experience being warmly accepted.

43 posted on 04/28/2015 4:27:27 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Well, they had a flip open case for the iPhone 4S that looked just like the Star Trek communicator. . . then there were apps that would add appropriate sound effects.

Will this do?

44 posted on 04/28/2015 4:29:37 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Heh! I admit.
I bought the TOS communicator app..

I’m a nerd.


45 posted on 04/28/2015 4:34:08 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: tacticalogic
I've noticed many positive comments by people who have exactly the same experience being warmly accepted.

His comments are not positive. . . and they do not agree with the people who are actually using the Apple Watch. He has taken snippets out of generally positive reviews and aggregated them to make a negative statement.

Try reading some comments from people who HAVE used the Apple Watch instead:

Apple Watch weekend: My initial reactions

Pay attention to the non-professional comments further down from the main article. They are not all glowing but generally very positive.

46 posted on 04/28/2015 4:35:12 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: RandallFlagg
I bought the TOS communicator app..

LOL! Maybe they have the case to fit your current iPhone. . .

47 posted on 04/28/2015 4:37:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Naa. I’m hooked on the OtterBox Defender.


48 posted on 04/28/2015 4:38:20 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: Swordmaker
His comments are not positive. . . and they do not agree with the people who are actually using the Apple Watch.

You'd have to know the opinions of everyone who's actually using one to be able to objectively make the statement.

49 posted on 04/28/2015 4:40:12 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Swordmaker

Will this do until that app comes out?

Haha ordering one for each hand.


50 posted on 04/28/2015 5:03:27 PM PDT by Leep (To put it in laymen's terms liberal/progressive ist coo coo.)
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To: tacticalogic; Star Traveler; amigatec; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; zeugma
You'd have to know the opinions of everyone who's actually using one to be able to objectively make the statement.

No, you don't. Because he has not seen an Apple Watch, or used one. . . and he is quoting people who have had only minor quibbles which he has cherry-picked from each glowing review. His whole negative opinion is constructed from those negative few cherry-picked negatives. . . deliberately culled from otherwise sea of positives. His opinion is based not on his experience, but on the minor quibbles placed in overall positive reviews generally placed there to show the reviewer was not being a fanboy in their enthusiasm for the Apple Watch. . . they always have to have a negative.

Thurrott merely amassed all of those obligatory editorial negatives in one place and made a case that they were the sum total of the Apple Watch. I would trust the opinions of the people who are using them as part of their daily routine than someone who has never even looked on one in person.

YOU of course will go with what ever is most negative for Apple.

51 posted on 04/28/2015 6:07:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
YOU of course will go with what ever is most negative for Apple.

I'll "go with" something more substantial than personal opinion bolstered by logically impossible claims of universal agreement.

52 posted on 04/28/2015 6:20:14 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
I'll "go with" something more substantial than personal opinion bolstered by logically impossible claims of universal agreement.

And you want the impossible task of universal polling to prove something logically right in front of your face. You will take the position that until every single user is polled, we can't know that everyone has a good opinion of it.

53 posted on 04/28/2015 6:43:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
And you want the impossible task of universal polling to prove something logically right in front of your face.

No, I want objectively verifiable information. If you don't want to have to prove that everyone that's using an Apple Watch agrees with you, then don't make the claim.

54 posted on 04/28/2015 6:48:36 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; Star Traveler; amigatec; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; zeugma
No, I want objectively verifiable information. If you don't want to have to prove that everyone that's using an Apple Watch agrees with you, then don't make the claim.

Wow, exaggerate much? I did not make that claim. You always inflate the claims of people you disagree with to sow discord. Sorry, I am not playing your game. The topic is subjective. You want information, GO GET IT YOURSELF. You don't want information. You want to sow irritation. I know your game.

I have merely stated that Paul Thurrott's opinions are negative outliers of the range of reviews and where he has gotten his citations. . . and pointed you to other more useful, experiential reviewers who know what they are talking about. YOU conflate that into my saying "everyone" and requiring me to prove "all" are positive, an impossibility. I even stated that not all were positive. You ignore that.

I am not going to play prove that contention with your idiotic tit-for-tat game.

55 posted on 04/28/2015 7:02:11 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Wow, exaggerate much? I did not make that claim.

You said:

His comments are not positive. . . and they do not agree with the people who are actually using the Apple Watch.

That appears to cover all of them.

56 posted on 04/28/2015 7:10:56 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: winner3000

Some of the Apple fanbois here are on some kind of payroll. Not Apple but something close to Apple such as an advertizing company or user survey company. Their mission is to spread FUD among the Apple skeptics, Android and Windows users

Their mission is to get those on the fence to buy an Apple something


57 posted on 04/28/2015 7:19:41 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Swordmaker

As I said, I will never know who has a conflict of interest and who doesn’t, unless they tell me. And salesmen derive a cost per year, per month, per week, or per day, in order to make a large cost seem much smaller to the consumer.

If you think that Apple products are good now compared to the competition, I remember how much better the first Macintosh was compared to an IBM (pre-Windows)! I also owned at different times an I-Pod, I-Touch, I-Phone, and I’m currently typing on a MacBook Air. I loved all of them. I don’t know how much of my enjoyment of the MacBook Air is because of its design, or the SSD drive that makes it turn on lightning fast. It’s a shame that Cook had to open his bigoted mouth and make me stop buying Apple products, but I still can tell when someone is enthusiastic about the products, and when one is pushing others to buy them. It sounds similar, but the arguments are quite different.
I used to be Mr. Gadget: I was the first idiot who bought the first version, the perfect Guinea pig! I have since saved thousands of dollars not buying something until it has proved itself, and I usually buy one version behind! I end up buying things at a huge discount instead of a premium. Even the first I-Phone was absolutely destroyed by the next version. In terms of the Apple Watch, I think there’s even more of a gap as the first version of it is of dubious usefulness. Future versions may make the Apple Watch a must have. Just not yet.


58 posted on 04/28/2015 10:24:52 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: tacticalogic; Star Traveler; amigatec; itsahoot; dayglored; Loud Mime; IncPen
That appears to cover all of them.

Now you are extracting my words out of context and then impermissibly connecting them. A total non-sequitur. You ignore all the explanatory words in between. You TWIST words to mean what you want them to say. Therefore you are a cheater. I know your game. Not playing. YOU ARE a piece of reprehensible work, tacticalogic.

59 posted on 04/28/2015 11:32:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: CopperTop

You’ve been a member here for 15 years which means you’re likely mid 30s at least

And u have a fiancée

You’ve never married yet?

Young folks are strange today


60 posted on 04/28/2015 11:44:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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