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Pressure grows on Marines to consider lowering combat standards for women
Washington Times ^ | April 19, 2015 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 04/20/2015 8:48:00 AM PDT by C19fan

Two years ago, Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the nation’s top military officer, laid down an edict on the Obama administration’s plan to open direct land combat jobs to women: If women cannot meet a standard, senior commanders better have a good reason why it should not be lowered.

Today, the “Dempsey rule” appears to have its first test case.

The Marine Corps just finished research to see if female officers could successfully complete its rigorous Infantry Officer Course.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: marines; usmc; women
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Soldiers will die because of this PC Crap.
1 posted on 04/20/2015 8:48:00 AM PDT by C19fan
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Of course we were promised this wouldn't happen.

Progressives are as good as their word.

2 posted on 04/20/2015 8:50:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: C19fan

Just as many predicted.

The left loves to move the goalposts.


3 posted on 04/20/2015 8:50:55 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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That idea is totally Bull Crap! You pass the tests or you don’t get the job! No exceptions!


4 posted on 04/20/2015 8:50:58 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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We all knew this was coming. If the standards are too tough for women, then lower the standards.


5 posted on 04/20/2015 8:51:35 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: C19fan

Dempsey is a fool.
Don’t do it.


6 posted on 04/20/2015 8:51:52 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Soldiers will die because of this PC Crap.

Yes. This is insane.

7 posted on 04/20/2015 8:55:28 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: WellyP; C19fan

They did it in the police depts. and fire depts. and IMO it has compromised effectiveness. It will do the same here and people will die because of it, but in the lib mind being pc is more important, that is one reason liberalism IS INDEED a mental illness.


8 posted on 04/20/2015 8:55:39 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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Of 29 women who tried, none graduated; only four made it through the first day’s combat endurance test.

Lots of soldiers will die.

9 posted on 04/20/2015 8:56:12 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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The Marines are not fighting the war on women, they are fighting the enemy.


10 posted on 04/20/2015 8:56:24 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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If the standards are lowered then the casualties will be raised.


11 posted on 04/20/2015 8:57:08 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (When did the 2nd amendment suddenly require a license or permit to exercise as a right?)
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Every time a female replaces a male in the military, the overall effectiveness of our forces, declines a touch, today they are about 15%, so the decline has been substantial, and the goal is to reach 50% or more.

Why would the military be SEEKING to replace soldiers and sailors with replacements that are a shorter, lighter, weaker, sicklier, less aggressive, slower moving, more terrain limited, reduced distance traveling, hygienically vulnerable, smaller weight carrying, more prone to injury, version.


12 posted on 04/20/2015 8:58:39 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarianism's social liberalism, makes conservative limited government, & low taxes impossible.)
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incrementalism. easily stopped by saying no.

as an extra bonus, once you say ‘no’ you get to hear the liberals cry nonstop. at that point, just point and laugh... and say ‘no’ again.


13 posted on 04/20/2015 8:59:06 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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There should be no standards, and everyone should get a plastic trophy at the finish.

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14 posted on 04/20/2015 9:00:58 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Creating a special “female” standard is how they got them in the military in the first place.

When this took off in the early 1970s the first problem the military faced was having to find out what females couldn’t do, and find out what they could do. so that they could create a “female” standard for them.

It was trial and error, the females could not use the male standard of course, that was a given from day one, so they had to first keep dumbing down the standards until they could reach the level of what women could pass, and then they could write an official standard for them.


15 posted on 04/20/2015 9:05:26 AM PDT by ansel12 (libertarianism's social liberalism, makes conservative limited government, & low taxes impossible.)
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As a woman this sickens me. There is a role for men and women in life and they are not the same nor should they be.


16 posted on 04/20/2015 9:07:17 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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Senior commanders better have a good reason why it should not be lowered.’


Marine lives matters!

PS. Do not call them soldiers...

17 posted on 04/20/2015 9:08:23 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: WellyP

In every case since the disestablishment of the WAC and the other services equivalent arrangements for women, the standards have been changed. The standards have also been lowered not only so that some women could meet the requirement, but to ensure that the pass percentage matches that of men. The end result is two different sets of standards. This will happen again, as the political crowd has already decided that women will be admitted to every branch and type of unit and they don’t care about the consequences.

This has nothing to do about combat or even military. This is just a demonstration of the political power of the Left wing feminists. Do you think that a single one these loonies would ever volunteer for the military, much less for infantry or special operations forces? Of course not.


18 posted on 04/20/2015 9:10:50 AM PDT by centurion316
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Dempsey is a drunk.


19 posted on 04/20/2015 9:13:25 AM PDT by clintonh8r (ISIS IS ISlam/Christian lives matter!)
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Lowering our standards for Marines makes as much sense as lowering our standards when voting for the White House. Sadly, liberals approve of both in the name of diversity, no matter how many good people die as a result.


20 posted on 04/20/2015 9:15:42 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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