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Fiorina blasts Apple CEO's 'hypocrisy' over Indiana law
The Hill ^ | April 3, 2015 | By Mark Hensch

Posted on 04/03/2015 10:07:41 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
"I think this is a ginned-up controversy by people who play identity politics that has divided the nation in a way that is really unhelpful," Fiorina added.
She's not POTUS material, but an attack dog always makes a good running mate.
41 posted on 04/03/2015 11:25:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Dr. Ursus
> Foxconn just saying!

Yep, everybody's heard that lie. So knock yourself out, but until you provide reliable sources that back it up (which you can't do because it's been proven false), I'll stick with the facts as presented by the reliable sources that have already been argued here ad infinitum.

Have a great day. Cheers.

42 posted on 04/03/2015 11:42:52 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Under socialism, corporate executives are allowed to speak up....if they are members of the ruling party in good standing.


43 posted on 04/03/2015 12:59:53 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker/Cruz 2016)
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To: Dr. Ursus

“Apple and Walmart had no trouble using slave labor and child labor to produce their products!”

Too many people are blissfully unaware of this. Good Post.


44 posted on 04/03/2015 1:01:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Swordmaker
It also bars business owners from using the law as a defense if they refuse services to protected groups

It doesn't "also" do this - this IS what it does.

It is now - literally - an ANTI-RFRA.

45 posted on 04/03/2015 1:02:01 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dayglored; Dr. Ursus
Yep, everybody's heard that lie. So knock yourself out, but until you provide reliable sources that back it up (which you can't do because it's been proven false), I'll stick with the facts as presented by the reliable sources that have already been argued here ad infinitum.

Yeah, because Apple uses the part of Foxconn without the suicide nets.

46 posted on 04/03/2015 1:06:00 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: DoodleDawg
At least she had the "huevos" to say what nobody in the current crop of Republican contenders or in office are willing to say, except maybe Cruz. We say we want conservatives who speak out but when they do, we discount them as not having a chance.

We won't take back the presidency with that approach.

47 posted on 04/03/2015 2:17:51 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

Cruz already attacked the spineless GOPe and businesses over it


48 posted on 04/03/2015 2:19:32 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: Sam Clements
Cook presents himself as bright, if not outright brilliant. He must think the rest of us are stupid. Well I’m not stupid. I would like to hear his genius explanation as to why it is ok for him to profit hugely in areas of the world where oppression from the dark ages is practiced openly, while a small town pizza shop owner must be destroyed to further Cook’s pathetic posing. I’m waiting poser.

I would like to know why it is all right for Cook and his kind to discriminate -- to have standards, rules, principles, when hiring or firing people -- but it is not all right for anyone conservative or religious to have principles. These people who preach diversity seem to show no sensitivity or tolerance whatsoever toward others with different views or lifestyles.

As someone who long ago was the kid nobody played with, I can sympathize with those who feel marginalized, let alone victimized. However, I sadly realized two things: 1) My own behavior might have driven people away. 2) No matter how hard I try, not everyone is going to like me. And I am not going to like everyone either. I simply try to get along & be polite.

As long as no one is burning down a gay person's house, or throwing stones, Mr. Gay Man (or Woman) should shut up. We are leaving them alone. They must acknowledge others' opinions & simply either move on or rise above it. That is the way of the world.

Basically these people are angry at the whole concept of rules. They are amoral; they are psychopaths. They want to do their own thing & be accepted unconditionally.

49 posted on 04/03/2015 3:09:15 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: Talisker
> Yeah, because Apple uses the part of Foxconn without the suicide nets.

Gotta admit, that's cute.

Say, have you stopped doing business yet with every American bank where a banker has committed suicide in the past few years? No nets there either... some of 'em landed on metal picket fences, the kind with the spikes sticking up, and it took hours to peel the body off the fence.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/01/bankers-suicide-conspiracy/

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=banker+suicides

50 posted on 04/03/2015 3:09:28 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored; Talisker
BTW, to avoid misunderstanding, I'm not defending the Communist Chinese businesses, nor am I condemning American banks. Suicides anywhere are a tragedy and businesses that push people past their limits are damned unfortunate.

I'm only pointing out that Apple-hatred has generated some amazingly one-sided criticism that verges on hypocrisy of its own, especially when it's at variance with demonstrable facts. There's no need for it. Same goes for Windows-hatred, Linux-hatred, etc. They're just computers, geez.

51 posted on 04/03/2015 3:19:45 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: Amendment10
Does anybody remember if Steve Jobs prudently kept Apple out of politics?

Contrary to the Apple propaganda Steve Jobs kept Apple completely out of politics. Although he was liberal, he did not make large political donations himself. Apple itself did not make any at all. . . leaving such involvement to the Apple Employees' Political Action Committee. When asked to get Apple more involved by a Democratic committee activist, Steve Jobs was quoted as saying he would not because half of Apple's customers were Republicans and he was not about to alienate half of the company's customers for political reasons.

52 posted on 04/03/2015 3:31:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Oliviaforever
Is Tim Cook also running for President of the United States?

I certainly hope not. . . but for a Democrat, he'd be a better choice than Obambi or Hillary have been or would be. At least he's run a business. I would never vote for him. . . or any Democrat, or Liberal.

53 posted on 04/03/2015 3:35:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: dayglored
Say, have you stopped doing business yet with every American bank where a banker has committed suicide in the past few years? No nets there either... some of 'em landed on metal picket fences, the kind with the spikes sticking up, and it took hours to peel the body off the fence.

Oh, so everybody does it?

Okay, I'll accept that as an admittance.

I just get tired of Apple pretending its different.

54 posted on 04/03/2015 3:36:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
He picks on Indiana because it’s safe to do so.

That is probably a good conclusion. On the other hand, Apple has used it's economic power to improve the lot of workers in its supply chain in countries where workers' rights are not as protected as they could be. The threat of contract cancellation if workers are mistreated allowed Apple to force improvements in conditions, hours, and pay.

55 posted on 04/03/2015 3:42:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: N. Theknow
Cook did not come out, he was outed by someone on CNBC. Cook never openly took pride in being a homosexual.

After he was "outed" he did state that he was proud to be gay. . . but he did not choose to be outed. . . but accepted it once it was made public. Now he is going too far in his "Gay Pride" and taking stands that are not good for the company.

56 posted on 04/03/2015 3:45:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Something about Cook has always given me the impression that he’s not nearly as bright as Steve Jobs. This latest stunt more or less confirms it. I’m not comfortable owning shares of Apple knowing that a second-rate political hack is running the show.


57 posted on 04/03/2015 3:45:48 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Swordmaker; All
"I certainly hope not. . . but for a Democrat, he'd be a better choice than Obambi or Hillary have been or would be."

The question that we need to ask concerning visualizing anybody in the Oval Office is this. Would that person be willing for patriots to get them up to speed on the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers which they should have been up to speed with anyway before running for president?

And where domestic issues are concerned, Mr. Cook would be spending most of his time leading Congress to decide policy for the US Mail Service (1.8.7).

58 posted on 04/03/2015 3:46:56 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Dr. Ursus
Apple and Walmart had no trouble using slave labor and child labor to produce their products!

The contract company that assembles Apple products in China pays the workers on the Apple assembly lines SEVEN TIMES the prevailing minimum wage in China. That is the equivalent of $51 per hour in the United States. In additions, workers are allowed to work up to 20 hours per week of overtime. . . and they want more. Every time openings occur to work on an Apple assembly jobs thousands of applicants line up to apply for each position. Workers have the option of living in company provided dormitories or off company property in their own apartments. Please tell me where the "slave labor" conditions and requirements are? I surely do not see them.

You've been listening to the propaganda that won't tell you the actual facts such as Mike Daisey's "Agony and Ecstasy of Steve Jobs", which had to be retracted by NPR, when if was discovered that he had fabricated much of his evidence, including falsely translated interviews with workers, and used videos purported showing Apple assembly lines conditions that actually came from completely different companies. . . and you haven't been looking for the facts which are easily found for those who dig a bit to get beyond the mis-information storm.

59 posted on 04/03/2015 4:08:01 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: dayglored; Dr. Ursus
BTW, I don't know about Walmart, I'm only speaking of Apple.

Thanks, DayGloRed. I also just know the facts about Apple. Wallmart buys clothing made in the sweatshop manufacturing mode. . . which at best MAY use the Chinese national minimum wage of 63¢ an hour. (Keep in mind that cost of living is far less in China than it is in the USA). However, many of the sweatshops DO NOT pay minimum wage. I do not know if Walmart polices the supply chain in any way like Apple does theirs.

60 posted on 04/03/2015 4:19:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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