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When Real Disaster Strikes: These Are The People Who Will Loot, Pillage and Kill You For Your Food
SHTF Plan ^ | 1/27/15 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 01/27/2015 5:15:35 PM PST by Kartographer

Time and again we are reminded why it is prudent to have a back up plan just in case things go wrong. You’ve already got car insurance, house insurance, medical insurance and life insurance. But what about disaster insurance? And no, we’re not talking about a piece of paper guarantee issued by some behemoth corporation who you’re supposed to call when things go wrong.

Real disaster insurance in this context refers to your own personal and familial emergency reserve supplies and strategies, to be consumed and implemented when all hell breaks loose.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


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He is right, this was just a snow storm in a place it snows regularly ever year.

What if it was a true emergency something long term?

You would get to see what true 'zombies' are like.

I haven't posted it in a while, but here is one of my favorite SHTF Quotes:

"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working."

"But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon." 
Quark from: Deep Space Nine-The Siege of AR-558

1 posted on 01/27/2015 5:15:35 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 01/27/2015 5:16:11 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
President Odrama has been holding secret talks with His Son... Race Czar Revrunt Sharpton to discuss the needs of Urban Youth During Quasi Emergencies...and all is going according to plan!


3 posted on 01/27/2015 5:20:51 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Kartographer
Some interesting information and good points in that article. But there are some things that need to be addressed when you're talking about dealing with a short-term disaster of some kind. Having lived through several "calamities" here in the New York City area in recent years (I use quotes there because I hardly consider them real disasters), I have a few observations to make:

1. Make a plan to deal with an emergency, but understand full well that there's a very good chance that your plan is going to be inoperative for reasons completely outside your control. Hurricane Sandy was a good case in point. A lot of people in the NYC area thought they were well-prepared for Hurricane Sandy in 2012 because of measures they took after Hurricane Irene in 2011. One common measure people took was to go out and buy a generator in the event power went out. But that strategy went out the window once the generators ran out of fuel -- because the power was out for more than a week, not just a day or two.

2. Every emergency plan should include a "Plan B" that involves an evacuation for several days or a couple of weeks. And by "evacuation" I don't mean moving to a designated shelter or something like that. I mean packing everything into your vehicles and driving several hundred miles where you can spend a week or two in a campground in an area not affected by the disaster at hand. This was actually my "Plan A" for two recent situations in the NYC area, but I never had to carry them out because I never lost power or faced anything more inconvenient than deep snowdrifts.

3. If you really want to be prepared, consider laying the groundwork for the "Plan B" I described in Item #2 by storing a full outfit of camping gear, food and supplies in a self-storage location at least 100 miles from home. This will enable you to use those supplies even if your own home is destroyed, and you can then go your merry way to wait out whatever calamity you're facing.

Having gone through this a few times on a small scale, I've become more convinced that hunkering down at home is not the best way to deal with a disaster -- and has a lot of its own risks. This is because the immobility of the people and supplies can become an impediment to you and might seriously limit some flexibility that could be essential to your safety.

4 posted on 01/27/2015 5:33:46 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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In 2010, Pittsburgh had a massive snowstorm. It was impressive, however this is a place where it snows for goodness’ sake!!! You would’ve thought the world ended. Streets weren’t plowed....some remaining unplowed for 5 days after the storm. There were power outages everywhere. One coworker of mine did not have her power restored for almost 3 weeks. I had an AWD vehicle at the time but it was a BMW 3 series. Hardly any ground clearance. However, I made it to work every stinkin day. Yet, the grocery store shelves were literally empty for weeks. No eggs. No milk. Nothing. The employees of the large store in the city said “the trucks can’t get in”. I thought they were joking. Then I realized I never, ever want to be dependent on that crap again. I started prepping after that. It was so ridiculous. There was snow, but not that much!!! Sheesh.


5 posted on 01/27/2015 5:37:08 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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To: Alberta's Child

“3. If you really want to be prepared, consider laying the groundwork for the “Plan B” I described in Item #2 by storing a full outfit of camping gear, food and supplies in a self-storage location at least 100 miles from home. This will enable you to use those supplies even if your own home is destroyed, and you can then go your merry way to wait out whatever calamity you’re facing. “

Having grown up with hurricanes since the 50’s, we always had a network of family/friends we could evacuate to. They were obligated due to the times they stayed with us to go to the beach.


6 posted on 01/27/2015 5:38:22 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Kartographer

The greatest threat in a SHTF situation will come from single, young males traveling in packs. Men with wives and children to provide for will be at a great disadvantage. Something to think about.


7 posted on 01/27/2015 5:45:29 PM PST by Drew68
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Did you ever notice the “size” of the people in the bread lines when an emergency happens? Food is their mainstay and much of how they see their “identity”...they will do whatever is necessary to get it like a drug addict would it’s fix.


8 posted on 01/27/2015 5:57:53 PM PST by caww
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One more planning factor is that these days state governments in the northeast impose travel bans at the drop of a hat. So I think one needs both a stay-in-place plan and an alternative plan that involves relocating.


9 posted on 01/27/2015 6:00:39 PM PST by Stingray51
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Some rules are meant to be broken. Travel ban, what are they going to do when they catch you? Make you stand right where you are? No, a violation results in a citation and fine.


10 posted on 01/27/2015 6:05:52 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Drew68
Please mail your unwanted and gently used wives to:

Blogatron
c/o Tronbunker, NC

11 posted on 01/27/2015 6:08:16 PM PST by Blogatron (Allah = Satan)
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To: Kartographer

It’s true about the 3-5 day window. People will be hungry/thirsty, but not yet too weak to be non-threats.


12 posted on 01/27/2015 6:09:57 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Drew68
That's the biggest threat in a situation where looting for the sake of looting happens.

Interestingly, one of the characteristics in all of the disasters/calamities in the nanny-state region of NYC over the last 25 years is that looting was practically non-existent in every case.

13 posted on 01/27/2015 6:12:03 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Drew68

People like me will be actively hunting those packs of ferals.Most of them will never get off a shot.


14 posted on 01/27/2015 6:15:58 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: surroundedbyblue

I see there is a Pittsburgh Pepper Network on meetup.com... thing is, that’s 2-1/2 hours away from me.


15 posted on 01/27/2015 6:24:09 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: MeshugeMikey

lol


16 posted on 01/27/2015 6:28:26 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Stingray51

Jump in my plane from my airport and fly to the nearest intersection where my IFR clearance begins, and head to somewhere that the changes in latitude / changes in attitude rules apply. Preferably in the dead of night.


17 posted on 01/27/2015 6:29:42 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Kartographer
Living on a large, somewhat sparsely populated island, I often toss around what possible bugout could possibly be done.

Goig upslope on the old volcano we live on is about it, hence owning a 4X4.

Buying a boat has occurred to us, but when the gas runs out.......

18 posted on 01/27/2015 6:32:29 PM PST by doorgunner69
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we know for a fack....that Revrunt Sharpton aint kilt NO BODY for no food lately....caus it sho DONT look like he has been eatin . MUCH.


19 posted on 01/27/2015 6:33:07 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Kartographer

It is unbelievable to me that people don’t have supplies for a week in their homes. Even before I was prepping, I didn’t want to have to run to the store all the time.


20 posted on 01/27/2015 6:34:55 PM PST by Hardens Hollow (Formerly yorkiemom. I couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow. Join us!)
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