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Computer Security Question
self ^ | January 16, 2015 | knarf

Posted on 01/16/2015 9:24:42 AM PST by knarf

Does an uninstalled walware REALLY uninstall the threat ?


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Reference
KEYWORDS: malware; security; virus
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I got a popup today that my flash needed to be updated
I ignored it and surfed some other visual things (it all started with a fox broadcast that this site offered circumventing Comcast's refusal to allow it)

I persisted to ignore the popup but eventually gave in ... I had to restart and ...then it occurred to me

IF malware is installed, and (forgive my adolescent understanding of things) the guy outside in a van is watching my net play and/or snatching my data ...
and then I realize ... wait a minute ... THAT was a stupid thing for me to do ...

If I uninstall what I fear is a phisher, does the guy in the van say, "shit" .. and drive over to the next block to attack my friend ?

Or am I screwed because once he's got it, he's got it ?

I use Norton

1 posted on 01/16/2015 9:24:42 AM PST by knarf
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To: knarf

Restarting your computer may have locked the malware in.


2 posted on 01/16/2015 9:27:42 AM PST by sparklite2
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To: knarf

Run CCleaner. If something’s there, it’ll find it and take care of it.


3 posted on 01/16/2015 9:28:35 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: knarf
Depends on the scumware. True malware, probably not. Mild scumware - I just cleaned some off a friend's machine last week.

It appeared to leave.

Just to be sure, I did a Restore point anyway.

4 posted on 01/16/2015 9:29:16 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: knarf

Or you could also recover to a back up from a couple days ago.


5 posted on 01/16/2015 9:29:40 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: knarf

It depends on the kind of malware.

There are a some relatively innocuous ad-ware programs that you can uninstall in the normal manner, but that is the minority. Most malware you will not be able to uninstall with the regular procedure, and even if you could uninstall it, they usually come packaged with viruses and trojans that can reinstall the software automatically.


6 posted on 01/16/2015 9:31:33 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: knarf

Norton prefers AVIRA or AVAST and Malwarebytes

7 posted on 01/16/2015 9:32:09 AM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: b4its2late

There is no one scanner that will catch everything nowadays, so I would never recommend people to just do a single scan.


8 posted on 01/16/2015 9:33:14 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: b4its2late

>Run CCleaner. If something’s there, it’ll find it and take care of it.

Nope!


9 posted on 01/16/2015 9:33:30 AM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: Boogieman

True, which is why I then said to recover from a backup to be sure. I use CCleaner and Microsoft Security Essentials for my machine.


10 posted on 01/16/2015 9:35:52 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: knarf

Any time I experience something that might have gotten past my standard AV software, I got to http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ and run their house call program.
Trend Micro’s Housecall is an exceptionally good fix for all sorts of malware and adware.


11 posted on 01/16/2015 9:36:52 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Muslim Creeping Conquest of America and Canada)
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To: knarf
Download Malwarebytes,it's free and good.

http://www.malwarebytes.org

12 posted on 01/16/2015 9:38:47 AM PST by mdittmar
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To: Brother Cracker; knarf

Ok, forget what I wrote.


13 posted on 01/16/2015 9:40:56 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: knarf; ShadowAce; Swordmaker
We need to do a post on flash players & Java updaters.

Those are the two "nags" that really get people into trouble.

14 posted on 01/16/2015 9:40:59 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: knarf

Microsoft
Malicious Software Removal Tool

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/malicious-software-removal-tool-details.aspx


15 posted on 01/16/2015 9:41:26 AM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: knarf

It depends, some uninstall fairly clean, most don’t. Of course you have Norton which is probably worse than most malwares. Of course Flash did do a big update recently, so that might not have even been malware, but that does open up the whole discussion on Flash being an unstable resource hog.


16 posted on 01/16/2015 9:41:33 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: b4its2late

run CCleaner, Avast anti-virus(free home version) AND MalwareBytes.com(also free home version)

You need to scan with all 3 - CCleaner alone is not enough

I write computer software AND surf the web for a living- those three (and using your head) will keep you safe


17 posted on 01/16/2015 9:42:12 AM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: Boogieman; knarf
Process Explorer:

If you want to pull the little scumware b*tch out by the roots, this is where you start.

18 posted on 01/16/2015 9:43:25 AM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: knarf
Fwiw, to be sure, I'd suggest going somewhere like Spywareinfo and have them take a look. They'll ask you to run a few programs and post the logs from those programs. If there's any crap on your PC, they'll advise you how to get rid of it.

Be advised, this is not an "instant" fix, they are volunteers and you'll have to invest some time and have patience, (usually a couple of days was my experience ).

It's free and they're good at what they do.

Here's a link on how to get started.

Instructions for posting requested logs

19 posted on 01/16/2015 9:44:25 AM PST by csvset
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Depends on what “uninstall” means to you. A piece of malware may be removed from the executable startup list, but that alone doesn’t mean the malware itself has been erased completely from the HDD. It may also be partially “uninstalled” in that some processes of the malware no longer start, but some others continue to start in the background and eat up memory. Also malware usually changes the registry in one or more ways and those effects usually linger until they are manually cleaned up.


20 posted on 01/16/2015 9:44:26 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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