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Posted on 11/30/2014 9:35:53 AM PST by Olog-hai
The once-distant promise of clean, affordable hydrogen-powered cars is starting to become a reality. Several major automakers, including Toyota, Honda and Hyundai, have started or will soon start selling these cars, which will be more expensive than comparable gasoline models but a lot cheaper than they were just a few years ago. Executives at Toyota say that the cost of making the critical components of hydrogen vehicles has fallen 95 percent since 2008. […]
The broad adoption of hydrogen-powered cars, which emit only water and heat, could play an important role, along with electric vehicles, in lowering emissions of carbon dioxide and other pollutants responsible for climate change. […]
Most hydrogen today is created from natural gas in a process that generates carbon dioxide. But scientists say fuel cells are still good for the environment, because making hydrogen produces far fewer emissions than burning fossil fuels. Hydrogen could be produced more cleanly by using alternative energy sources like solar and wind power to split water into hydrogen and oxygen atoms. And it can be generated from renewable sources like sewage and animal waste. …
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I’ll be in the shower. Let me know when methane cars get here.
Hindenburg
Liberals are too stupid to even remotely grasp that hydrogen fuel is not an energy source (like oil, natural gas, solar, nuclear or wind) but a kind of battery, storing the energy from some other source as burnable hydrogen. They are too stupid to grasp this simple fact, so they think in terms of hydrogen as a solution to the problem of CO2 emissions. But since the problem itself is entirely fanciful, I guess it doesn’t matter that the proposed solution is non-existent.
Kind of reminds me of the miraculous plastic shopping bags, when they were introduced. The Environmentalists hailed them, for all of the trees they saved. 40 years on, the same crowd tells us that they are the bane of our existence.
I won’t live long enough to see it to the end, but this hydrogen car business certainly sounds like a similar scenario.
Thanks!
This is one of W’s initiatives first stated in his inaugural address.. now coopted by the scum bags. Very dependent on cheap electricity.
Fireball !!!
Are you insinuating that they are too stupid to find their butts with both hands and the lights on?
Just let me know when I can pump 22 gallons of distilled water into the tank and produce the hydrogen as needed.
Before that, I don’t see much future in it.
Hydrogen is explosive in concentrations from 5% to 95%.
BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!
Lose your car, lose your wife, lose your family, lose your life.
No thank you.
Probably make the Ford Pinto look like a fire cracker.
I saw a demonstration of a gydrogen semi teactor trailer. Amazing. The technology works. The problem is lack f fueling stations.
Good summary of the hollowness of this latest attempt at “greenness”. Thanks.
Water they suggest? Well, yes, but it takes more energy to break apart the molecule than is given off when combined. Last I heard, it was on the order of 8-1, and maybe it's down 2-1, but unless there's an actual need for it, like in outer space, spending two or more to get one back ain't worth it, including all the capital outlay and maintenance costs.
Where do you get the idea hydrogen vehicles don’t work. They are in use today.
That's been one of the more entertaining myth's of hydrogen powered vehicles, notwithstanding the fact that it simply isn't true.
BMW had 5 and 7 Series hydrogen powered vehicles back in the early 2000's (2001-2003) that drove from the east coast to the west coast on nothing but hydrogen fuel.
The cars performed flawlessly.
I managed to drive one of the 7 Series hydrogen powered vehicles when they were in Chicago at that time. I couldn't tell the difference driving the hydrogen powered 7-Series vs. the conventional gasoline powered 7-Series. Both were literally a dream to drive.
As an FYI, I'm not a "green power" nut and my interest in hydrogen powered vehicles back then, as it is today, is purely in the interest of the United States of America achieving energy independence so we stop sending hundreds of billions of dollars a year to turd-world islamic states that hate us and want to kill us.
I've also purposely not commented in this post about the cost effectiveness of hydrogen powered vehicles. All I will say on that topic is that like any other "new" technology, it's expensive as all hell when it's first created however commoditization, mass production and mass acceptance always drives the cost down to an affordable level.
Henry Ford knew that with the Model T and all the technology and work process innovations it drove.
Most - and I mean over 90% - of the water in the air comes from evaporation from oceans and lakes. The amount from human activity is insignificant. And that water goes back into lakes and oceans through precipitation. That is called the water cycle.
Like you said, hydrogen is an energy-storage medium. If hydrogen production facilities could be combined with remote solar/geothermal/wind/etc. power generation facilities, its use could become feasible/economical.
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