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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 48 NOVEMBER 28, 2014
freerepublic | November 28, 2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/28/2014 12:33:45 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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I have to share Lady Bender's perfectly baked and browned 19# turkey with stuffing inside. We have a small kitchen with a single oven so there is a lot going on to bring a hot meal to the table for 10 people. We brined this bird for 14 hours...

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21 posted on 11/28/2014 7:17:30 PM PST by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: outofsalt

In my neck of the woods (Georgia) Fall is the best time to plant shrubs. There is less stress to the plant (less drought and heat) and the shrub has time to establish.

I would think in a dry, coastal area the theory would be the same...less heat and less drought.

If you are planting azaleas, then I’d say by all means plant now.


22 posted on 11/28/2014 8:58:01 PM PST by hoe_cake ( Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution)
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To: heartwood

My yard is a large percentage of clay. Even planting stuff at normal times, we have trouble growing shrubs. Plus, there’s not many jobs pouring concrete this time of the year - so we cut down on non necessities other than Christmas presents.


23 posted on 11/28/2014 10:34:40 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: hoe_cake
hoe_cake:" If you are planting azaleas, then I’d say by all means plant now."

Agreed ,.. and add more humus and organic fiber to the soil
Azalias and rhododendrons thrive in acidic and well drained soils, and are generally understory shrubs and plants that benefit from high sun shade,
and prefer sunshine in early morning and afternoon weakened sunshine . They do suffer from winter dessication , so an anti-dessicant spray (waxy) will prevent drying out .

The easy way to landscaping is to see what your neighbors use for foundation plantings, and duplicate their varieties.
However , since you are looking for quick turn-around, consider a sequence of flowering shrubs and annuals for that region.
Cooperative extension, Agway, or Farm Bureau could assist you in the selection of regionally appropriate flowers ,shrubs, and trees.
If you were looking for long term flowering plants , I would suggest perennials and bi-annuals, and bulbs.
Any late term planting will have inadequate root structure to support plant growth, so I would reccomend an anti-dessicant spray, or wrapping in burlap,
to prevent plant drying out, or 'winter kill'.
Remember the first rule of horticulture :" Always plant a $5.00 plant into a $10.oo dollar hole" (and add fertilizer so that it will encourage root spread and growth)
Also , late plantings need protection from drying out (anti-dessication spray)or burlap wrapping.

24 posted on 11/28/2014 10:36:17 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: tubebender

That’s amazing pumpkin babies.


25 posted on 11/28/2014 10:37:07 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: heartwood; outofsalt

Was this intended to answer “out of salt”s question? Thanks for the info.


26 posted on 11/28/2014 10:39:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: Texas Fossil; outofsalt

Thanks for the suggestions.


27 posted on 11/28/2014 10:40:17 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: sockmonkey

That’s terrific. Great bargains and great plants.


28 posted on 11/28/2014 10:41:47 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: fanfan

Thanks fanfan. Nice to “see” you again.


29 posted on 11/28/2014 10:43:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Good job - I’ve got to do some similar work.


30 posted on 11/28/2014 10:44:45 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: fanfan

Newport News is in zone 7-8. Maybe 6 inches of sandy soil over a gray clay soil which is not too compacted. Today I’m tilling and admixing compost (after I powerwash the front.) I will be heading to the nursery this evening with fingers crossed.


31 posted on 11/29/2014 4:41:26 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Thanks Tex. I think I will try that as they are nearly impossible to kill. I have an ugly driveway area where that will work.


32 posted on 11/29/2014 4:43:49 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: heartwood

I had not heard of wilt-pruf. I love freepers. Thank you.


33 posted on 11/29/2014 4:45:44 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; hoe_cake

Thank you both! I’m afraid of the azaleas getting cooked as this is Full sun by a brick wall but the rhododendrons are likely to not mind as much. I need it to look good when it hits the market but I do want to try for happy plants long after the sale.

The burlap tarp will most likely be a painting drop cloth but that is a good suggestion for the cold snaps we get. I like the $10 hole suggestion too as I’m going to be having to spend more than $5 even with the end of season prices.

Thanks, FRiends.


34 posted on 11/29/2014 4:56:23 AM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: greeneyes

Has anyone heard of a leaf vacuum rigged to put leaves in an enclosed pickup bed ? I sure could use a rig like this...


35 posted on 11/29/2014 5:51:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: tubebender

Mrs tubebender is a great cook. Beautiful turkey.


36 posted on 11/29/2014 9:23:58 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Sounds like a great idea. Everyone around here just have the leaf blowers no vacuums of any kind.


37 posted on 11/29/2014 9:56:55 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

We have #1 son and his wife here for TG. We took the fishing boat out for a spin this morning and came across a flock of pelicans.
These big birds don’t usually show up at Lake of the Ozarks.

Beautiful day to be out. Next stop, Casa de Loco Winery...


38 posted on 11/29/2014 9:59:13 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Sometimes I wish we lived in one of the lake areas. I grew up south of Springfield. We went drove down to the lake areas almost every weekend when I was a kid.

Lake Taneycomo, Swan Creek, Forsythe, Rockaway Beach, Indian Pointe to name a few. Then there were longer trips to Roaring River and Lake of the Ozarks. Silver Dollar City didn't open till I was a senior in high school.

We had intended to move back there at some point, but should have done so while the kids were little. They grew up, got married and had kids and are tied to this area now. When we retired, It was a choice between the kids and the Hometown area. The kids won. Quite a few of my classmates have moved back as soon as they retired.

39 posted on 11/29/2014 10:13:04 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; outofsalt

Lilac’s are another that are incredibly hardy. Withstands great heat and drought and comes back.

Easily transplanted.


40 posted on 11/29/2014 4:53:03 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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