Posted on 11/04/2014 8:35:02 AM PST by fruser1
The method I propose won’t stop muggers from coercing you to hand over your wallet either.
If someone demands your number and you don’t want to give it to them, shoot them, call the police, etc..
I think any threat of voter intimidation is worth the integrity of the election. If you disagree, I guess you disagree.
I own a computer software company. Electronic voting should absolutely never be allowed. Ever.
I just got back from voting in my little corner of western Loudoun County. Paper ballots only. Interesting thing, a very nice young lady was collecting signatures for Dr. Ben Carson to run in ‘16. I signed, of course. Poll worker told me they were running about 100 voters an hour, which is terrific around here. Crossing my fingers for a Gillespie win.
“Electronic voting should absolutely never be allowed”
But what if it’s done in a way where integrity can be verified, hence gaining assurance.
With paper ballots, you can’t verify how they were counted and summed at all, unless you physically go through all the ballots yourself.
See my #8 reply above which is how I would set it up to get some good assurance that votes are counted correctly.
If it was like the machine we used in Fairfax County, it was an optical scanner that took your paper ballot and then just thanked you for voting. No summary.
There were no touch screen machines at my precinct when I voted this morning, just the "fill in the oval" on paper and feed it into the tally reader.
I have always wondered if my votes were being counted properly but at least in Stafford County were are still a large majority conservative and the published final vote tabulations reflect that fact.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/03/photo-polling-place_n_6095746.html
Freak State:
“Maryland: Maryland regulations ban the use of electronic communication devices, including cameras and cell phones, inside polling locations. Verdict: Ballot photography banned. Polling place photography banned.”
How convenient.
I am also in Virginia. Different localities have different methods for casting votes.
This time, the polling place where I vote had paper ballots, and the voting procedure was as follows:
Enter voting “booth” (actually a table with a stand-up cardboard screen to provide some level of privacy).
Use supplied ink pen to fill in little ovals next to choices
Exit voting “booth” and walk to attendant at ballot-reading machine.
Feed paper ballot in to machine (face down).
Machine pauses, then flashes “Thanks for voting”
The ballot reader provided no positive verification as to how my vote was cast. I should have taken a photo of my ballot with my cell phone camera.
In ‘12, we drove through both areas prior to election day and the Romney signs were omnipresent.
And I mean *everywhere*.
There were maybe 3 or 4 Obeyme signs propped randomly.
I was gobsmacked when Obeyme swept that area.
Total, bold-faced fraud, IMO.
My solution (perhaps an extreme one) is that I would kill that person.
With electronic ballots, you can't verify how they were counted and summed at all.[end of sentence]
Stop mocking the reality of voter fraud. You are starting to ping my Concern Troll meter.
This would be an indication for the potential of voter and election fraud.
The ones here in WA state have a paper print out. You don’t get to take a copy with you, which is retarded and gay, but its on the roll which ostensibly can be audited.
Im not mocking it.
People making everything into it are buying the real stuff under a pile of nonsense. People that think that every race is going to have massive amounts of it is going to give people the impression that we are just making it up.
Yes, that’s what I had at Tysons Corner. Very unsettling and I actually said something to the poll watcher.
You can if you have access to the data.
Digital data can be manipulated in such a way that you cannot even tell it has been manipulated.
It is more difficult to do that to paper. Especially when they’d have to do it to millions of pieces of that paper, not just a few data files.
I just got back from voting at the Lee Center in Alexandria. I got to fill out a paper ballot, and I fed it into the scanner.
The good news is that my paper ballot is in the box. If there is a recount, the paper ballot is there to be counted.
Well hopefully Noah and Lot took advantage of early voting before departing.
Up until this election this was the procedure. Get in line behind A-F or G-N or O-Z. give the worker your name, they look it up in the Big Book. You sign a honesty clause, the worker gives you a ballot WITH a Unique number. THat ballot is assigned to you.They post that ballot number in the Big Book.
They can't tell how I've voted? Uhh, yes.
Exit polls are used election night but 3 months from now they can give us exact figures. All nice and wrapped up with a bow.
I voted early this year and the procedure was a little different.
Gave the worker my name , he looked me up on a laptop. Verified my address, etc. Gave me a 'permission slip' to take to a different table to collect the proper ballot.
Filled in the circle next to my choice, stuck the ballot in a reader. It swallowed the ballot and counted my choices who knows how. No indication for me as to the honesty of the count.
Oh, the reader gives a running total of the ballots run through it. Couldn't that number be used by a voter to see their ballot an how it was counted?
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