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Take our poll: Should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame?
CBS News ^ | October 18, 2014

Posted on 10/18/2014 12:43:13 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: newfreep
Pete should be in the HOF for his baseball accomplishments as a PLAYER.

Pete should NOT be allowed back in baseball due to his betting as a manager.

Exactly right. I don't see why this is so difficult.

21 posted on 10/18/2014 1:21:30 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: DFG
No. No for so many reasons. The primary reason is Rose knowingly broke the cardinal rule of baseball with full knowledge of the rule and the consequences of breaking it. Have a problem with PEDs? Rose used PEDs: Greenies (baseball lingo for amphetamines).

Rose himself agreed to the lifetime ban from MLB and, therefore, the lifetime ban from the HOF.

Have some of you forgotten why Rose agreed to the lifetime ban?

22 posted on 10/18/2014 1:23:50 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: EveningStar

Yes


23 posted on 10/18/2014 1:24:58 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: EveningStar

Only after Joe Jackson gets in


24 posted on 10/18/2014 1:25:18 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: EveningStar
There's a thing but meaningful distinction at play.

Pete Rose was not banned for life.

Pete Rose agreed to be banned for life and did so for at least one reason we all should be expected to know.

25 posted on 10/18/2014 1:27:04 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: newfreep
Pete’s gambling was as a manager when he bet on the Reds.

Do you want to bet on that?

26 posted on 10/18/2014 1:33:23 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: EveningStar

There IS no Baseball Hall of Fame without Pete Rose. I will never visit it until after he’s inducted.


27 posted on 10/18/2014 1:37:35 PM PDT by sargon
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To: EveningStar
When you can convince me that President Obola belongs on Mount Rushmore then you can talk to me about Charlie Boxcars getting into the HOF.

Until then...save your breath.

28 posted on 10/18/2014 1:39:02 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: Baynative

I agree - Pete Rose needs to be in the Hall of Fame.


29 posted on 10/18/2014 1:43:45 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Baynative
Pete Rose belongs in the hall of fame

WRONG!

The late Pete Rose belongs in the Hall of Fame.

He's not "the late" yet?

Tough!

30 posted on 10/18/2014 1:43:45 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: DFG

BINGO


31 posted on 10/18/2014 1:50:46 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village,)
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To: EveningStar

As long has he bet on himself, and not against himself, what’s the harm?


32 posted on 10/18/2014 1:58:56 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Scoutmaster

LOL!


33 posted on 10/18/2014 2:00:15 PM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: NorthMountain
This probably one of the most divisive issues that ever comes up on this website and the opinions are usually set in stone. I separate what he did for the game while he was playing and how he inspired future players from all the allegations, hearsay and personal conflicts that have played out over the years.

Where I would be of an opposite mind is if it had been proven that he bet against his own team while managing and made decisions in the game to influence the outcome. Yes, using inside information is walking a fine line and if he had a gaming affliction he should have bet on other sports. But, I still see a separation and though he's not got the reputation of George Brett or Cal Ripkin, he's always a standout to me because of his heart and love for the game.

Now that I've said love for the game, I've opened the door to comparisons with wife beaters. Like I said, this is divisive ...seriously so.

34 posted on 10/18/2014 2:01:45 PM PDT by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: sargon

The poll is holding steady at 84% to 16% - indicating that the fans are strongly in favor of letting him in. Much of the opposition is coming from sports writers who can’t lift a 34” bat.


35 posted on 10/18/2014 2:07:02 PM PDT by Baynative (Did you ever notice that atheists don't dare sue Muslims?)
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To: EveningStar

Because of the “BLACK SOX” scandal in baseball, the sport specifically forbade “BETTING” on the games you are to play in. Pete Rose knew the rules, but he thought he wasn’t going to get caught. Sorry Pete, but you knew what you were doing. You weren’t just an innocent bystander. YOU PLAY BY YOUR RULES, YOU DIE BY YOUR RULES.


36 posted on 10/18/2014 2:09:58 PM PDT by gingerbread
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To: EveningStar

twice once for hits once next to the black sox


37 posted on 10/18/2014 2:17:41 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: dainbramaged

your process would also eliminate Ty Cobb


38 posted on 10/18/2014 2:19:58 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: EveningStar

Joe Jackson isn’t in the HoF and for the same reason.

He had every advantage in life and threw it away to bet on baseball. He should NEVER be in the HoF.


39 posted on 10/18/2014 2:24:19 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: EveningStar
My respect for Rose vanished after he barreled into catcher Ray Fosse at home plate, a hit that essentially ended Ray's career. Fosse would play again, but he was never the same. Rose never even visited Ray in the hospital. Now that is class for you. I could care less about Pete Rose. Let the ban stand.
40 posted on 10/18/2014 2:26:30 PM PDT by Fungi (The bigger the government, the smaller the individual.)
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