Take our poll: Should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame?

CBS News ^ | October 18, 2014

[EveningStar]

No matter what you think of Pete Rose, you can't deny what an electric moment it was on September 11th, 1985, when Rose became baseball's all-time major league hit leader -- a record that still stands today.

And yet, the debate over whether his cardinal sin -- gambling on baseball -- should keep him out of the Hall of Fame for life remains as fierce as ever, as correspondent Lee Cowan explains in a profile of Rose, to be aired on CBS' "Sunday Morning" October 19...

Take our poll!

Do you feel Pete Rose should be inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame, or not?

[dainbramaged]

1926 - Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker were permitted by Ban Johnson to resign from baseball near the end of the 1926 season after former pitcher Dutch Leonard charged that Cobb, Speaker and Smoky Joe Wood had joined him just before the 1919 World Series in betting on a game they all knew was fixed. Leonard presented letters and other documents to Johnson, and Johnson thought they would be so potentially damaging to baseball in the wake of the Black Sox scandal that he paid Leonard $20,000 to have them suppressed. Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis exposed the cover-up and the eventual fallout forced Johnson out his job as president of the league he had created. Cobb and Speaker vehemently denied any wrongdoing, Cobb saying that "There has never been a baseball game in my life that I played in that I knew was fixed,? and that the only games he ever bet on were two series games in 1919, when he lost $150 on games thrown by the Sox. He claimed his letters to Leonard had been misunderstood, that he was merely speaking of business investments. Landis took the case under advisement and eventually let both players remain in baseball because they had not been found guilty of fixing any game themselves. It was after this case, though, that Landis instituted the rule mandating that any player found guilty of betting on baseball would be suspended for a year and that any player found to have bet on his own team would be barred for life. Cobb later claimed that the attorneys representing him and Speaker had brokered their reinstatement by threatening to expose further scandal in baseball if the two were not cleared.
From an ESPN article.
Did Cobb lie? Who knows?

[basalt]

Exactly....when he had a “bad” week...you just know he made up for it the next week...every loss under his watch is tainted.

[KevinB]

I just watched that video. He should have been banned from baseball just for that hit. Eff him.

[gunsequalfreedom]

What did he do? You might change my mind.

[basalt]

agree..that was a cheap shot. Being it was an “exhibition” game, Fosse wasn’t properly prepared for a hit like that. For some, that made Rose a hero, i thought it as cheap.

[reed13k]

oh yeah that too - I was just referring to the fact that Cobb was an ass ... LOL

[editor-surveyor]

>> “I might be six feet under, but that’s what you have to live with.” <<

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Now there’s some brilliant oratory!

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[editor-surveyor]

>> “he set the example,own it” <<

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Pi$$ off Granny.
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( Do you by any chance belong to the “Ad Council?”)

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[editor-surveyor]

>> “Much of the opposition is coming from sports writers who can’t lift a 34” bat.” <<

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Amen!

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[Hoodat]

Based upon character alone, Pete Rose should NEVER be allowed into the Hall of Fame. Not only that, he should never be allowed inside Cooperstown city limits. His comments after Gene Garber ended his hitting streak showed the world how classless he really is.

[NorthMountain]

I have been a "Reds" fan for as long as I can remember. I was a fan during the Big Red Machine days ... I can remember many of the names from that time: Johnny Bench, Tony Perez, Joe Morgan, Dave Concepcion and yes, Pete Rose. Pete was the essence of 'hustle'. He was a fine example of putting "110%" into the game. To me, he was a greater example than the George Bretts and Cal Ripkens, because his success didn't seem to come easily. He worked for it in ways few others did.

Then he betrayed his fans.

He should be inducted into the HoF the same year he dies.

And today's steroid kings should never come anywhere near Cooperstown.

As for the wife-beater thing ... anybody who would dump that on you is a total jackass.

[advertising guy]

Piss off ? He cheated,lied,and is now beggin

Hea was a good,no great,baseball cheater

Pissed off ? More like Pete pissed on himself

[editor-surveyor]

Are you Walter Mitty’s seventh son?
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[wny]

I don’t recall.....did he bet on games he managed or played in? If not, let him in.

[Scoutmaster]

Pete should have visited Fosse in the hospital.

Being that it was a baseball game, Fosse should have known what happens when you block home plate, particularly without having the baseball.

Being that it was Pete Rose, Fosse should have really known what happens when you block home plate without having the baseball.

Being that it was just an 'exhibition' All-Star Game that was tied in the bottom on the 12th with Pete Rose on second when a single was hit up the middle, Ray Rosse should never have come three to four feet up the line without the ball to block home plate, and he did so at his own risk.

Not only that, but catchers frequently hurt runners by blocking the plate.

If Rose was at fault by being overeager to score the winning run in the bottom of the 12th of an 'exhibition game,' Fosse was equally overeager to prevent the winning run from scoring in the bottom of the 12th of an 'exhibition game' by coming three to four feet up the line to block the plate, perhaps moreso.

Fosse is the one who put both Fosse and Rose in physical danger.

[editor-surveyor]

The game is played the way it is played. “Exhibition” changes nothing.

Either you play All-Out all of the time, or you are on the way out.
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[namvolunteer]

Honorable men honor contracts. He took the contract to avoid decades of prison time.

[Waryone]

"Only after Joe Jackson gets in"

I was going to post about "Shoeless" Joe myself and you are absolutely correct.

[Robwin]

Vote very much in favor of Rose, further evidence of the decline of moral standards in contemporary America.

[jttpwalsh]

I went to the Hall of Fame last week, for the first time in my life (I am 56). I was amazed by how much Pete Rose memorabilia was on display, but, of course, no plaque. I tend to agree with the school of thought that opines that he be elected, post mortem. His sins as a manager do not vacate the fact that he was an immortal player. All who have played the game since 1919 are more than well aware that gambling on baseball is strictly prohibited. Just my opinion, thanks for considering it.