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Not kosher: Ultra-Orthodox Jews delay JFK flight to Israel because they can’t sit next to women
http://www.nydailynews.com ^ | September 26, 2014, | Corinne Lestch

Posted on 09/27/2014 6:57:51 PM PDT by B4Ranch

A group of ultra-Orthodox passengers heading to Israel to celebrate the Jewish new year delayed an El Al flight out of JFK Airport, kvetching that they couldn’t sit next to women because of religious reasons.(snip)

The Haredi travelers wouldn’t sit unless they could trade their seats with other passengers, rankling the secular Jews on board the Tuesday night flight, according to Shalom Life.

“I ended up sitting next to a … man who jumped out of his seat the moment we had finished taking off and proceeded to stand in the aisle.”

Other passengers recalled that the black-clad rabblerousers stood in the aisle, praying loudly and causing a scene — and making it impossible for others to go to the bathroom.


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To: ConservingFreedom
why not just switch seats for them

That's what I've been wondering all along. A bit of a nuisance in flight or prefight, but surely it could be sorted out in ten minutes or so.

21 posted on 09/27/2014 7:21:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I can play the piano just as well with or without shoes.)
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To: rovenstinez

blinkin’ pharisees...


22 posted on 09/27/2014 7:22:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: B4Ranch

Well, at least they didn’t try to cut off her head. Somewhat annoying complaining we can deal with.


23 posted on 09/27/2014 7:24:24 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Tax-chick

It should have been obvious at the gate... I wonder if it was two rival Haredi sects and they did not want to cooperate, though not being willing to put aside any of their holier-than-thouness. My guess is that while El Al would be glad to do seat planning to make this possible, i.e. group all male Haredi into a block, the ultimate responsibility is that of the customer to alert them of special needs. They can’t just be acting up in the air.


24 posted on 09/27/2014 7:25:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
the ultimate responsibility is that of the customer to alert them of special needs

Yeah, you'd think. A general spirit of cooperativeness can make all sorts of "special needs" workable. Thinking of the configuration of a passenger airplane, it should have been possible for all men who needed to sit by men to do so, and everyone else to also sit, somewhere else.

25 posted on 09/27/2014 7:28:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I can play the piano just as well with or without shoes.)
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To: B4Ranch
The loud music didn't help either.


26 posted on 09/27/2014 7:28:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: pallis

You’d think El Al would have experienced this before and had learned how to accommodate around it.


27 posted on 09/27/2014 7:29:32 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tax-chick

They may have wanted to create a scene. It would have been pretty to tell the booking agent before buying their tickets?????


28 posted on 09/27/2014 7:29:33 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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29 posted on 09/27/2014 7:31:02 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

You could be right.


30 posted on 09/27/2014 7:31:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I can play the piano just as well with or without shoes.)
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To: B4Ranch

I was on a flight recently where my wife and I were seated in the first class cabin but not together. Whenn the passenger that was sitting next to her got on board I asked him if he would mind trading seats with me. He got a startled look on his face and beat feat to the flight attendant and complained. Shpe took care of us getting together later but his reason for not trading seats....he was frightened to sit on the left side of the plane.


31 posted on 09/27/2014 7:46:13 PM PDT by waredbird
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To: Tax-chick

It reads like some secular (or religious in a different manner) Jewish people thought this was a bridge too far, prompting the acting up.

There’s nothing in the bible calling for such segregation, but seeing how it might impact their conscience towards God, as a Christian man I would have been willing to sit as a buffer. But I have a good idea how they get under the skin of normal non Haredi Jews.

At any rate there are biblical rules for Jews about seats in which women during their period have sat, making it an additional interesting topic.


32 posted on 09/27/2014 7:46:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: waredbird

Leftophobia?


33 posted on 09/27/2014 7:47:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: B4Ranch

this is just nuts...some folks demand everything for them as if they are God


34 posted on 09/27/2014 7:50:03 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

This is what you ultimately get with a religion of salvation by works.


35 posted on 09/27/2014 7:51:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Brother Cracker

The girl in the seat behind is not guilty.


36 posted on 09/27/2014 7:52:32 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Nifster
Every Tom, Dick and Harry today are clamoring for rights they would not have in the past, but now, regardless of the stupidity of it,...all this push for tolerance has achieved nothing but just the opposite.


37 posted on 09/27/2014 7:54:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: smokingfrog
Well, this string quartet took over this plane

these gals sang opera on the subway....

And Broadway Lion King folks took over this subway singing


38 posted on 09/27/2014 8:06:35 PM PDT by caww
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Notice that she rides, amberlamps style.


39 posted on 09/27/2014 8:07:21 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

It’s funny, I was gonna call her “Amber.” The original Amber Lamps girl was really hot.


40 posted on 09/27/2014 8:11:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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