Posted on 09/17/2014 12:52:26 PM PDT by paladinan
They do?
Socialists are pushing for the yes vote.
Scotland sends 59 MPs to Westminster.
1 is a Tory.
The balance is various socialist parties.
Scottish National Party
Scottish Labour Party
Liberal Democrat Party.
Pretty much all Scots are socialist.
Socialism in one country then? Scotland’s going Stalinist?
Scotland is VERY liberal. They want to be independant from England because they see them as too conservative. Imagine a state like Maryland if the DC suburbs and Baltimore city left. It would cause all sorts of trouble as a reliable liberal voting block could no longer swamp the normal people of the state. Thats why libs in England are freaking out.
That’s curious to me, as well. I happen to believe Nigel Farage has the correct take: That if Scotland divides from England, they will in their minds achieve a sort of something, but they will be forced to become a fiefdom of Brussels. They will have to become Euronerds in order to have any sort of strength, and will lose currency-printing capability which they have now, as part of Britain.
Why they would want to do this is absolutely beyond me, I can’t think of anything worse than being a Belgian colony and I can’t imagine anyone with genuine Scottish blood would tolerate even thinking about it.
But, I would imagine libs would really, really support the idea because it would bring another country under the wise, wonderful one-world unelected government of Brussels.
Scotland is simply a beautiful country, it is unimaginable, with their history and pride, that they could go with this separation. But this is the type of thinking that I expect from libs and folks who are blitheringly ignorant of history——but to hear you say that Scottish libs oppose separation-—I find that surprising, but that’s just me projecting my impressions.
Europe has a Navy? Or do you mean England/UK?
If Scotland splits and doesn't embrace North Sea Oil production and strive to grow it, it will eventually starve.
Liberals are collectivists.
Scotland wants independence.
End of subject.
No issues matter except that one.
If hanging together in a liferaft meant being sucked down into a bottomless pit, and you jumped out of the raft onto the shore and encouraged everyone else to do the same thing, the last you’d see of every liberal on the raft is their red-faced screaming at you that you are a traitor, howling damnation at you as they were sucked to their doom.
Liberals have ONE issue - The Group.
To them, every other aspect of life is totally irrelevant. What conservatives simply cannot grasp is that total extremity of mental illness. That’s why liberals claim to care so much about issues, yet at the same time will dump them without a care or hesitation for the latest new approved position statements. Because they don’t really care about issues and see people who do as complete morons. What they see as important is supporting the group’s issue requirements at any particular time, which is a COMPLETELY different thing.
Because to them, issues come and go, but obedience is forever. And that, to them, is the ONLY issue in the whole world. They are like six year old children terrified of losing their mommies - which is where the whole soccer-mom thing comes from. It keeps liberal women in a permanent schizophrenic state. Half totalitarian rejection-punishment mother-from-hell, and half as their own emotional victim-child. And why? Because their so-called “women’s groups” demand it, to keep them psychologically crippled. After that’s established, they are told to hate men, get a divorce, and vote communist-for-safety because they are by then anti-depressant-popping, wine-chugging wrecks who can’t piss without permission.
That’s why EVERYTHING ELSE THEY DO is to hide and deny the true level of insanity that grips their very souls. They are mind slaves beyond your comprehension, through a very nasty form of Stockholm Syndrome called “Feminism.”
Julius Caesar said it succinctly, “Divide and conquer.” Whether it is Great Britain, the United States, or any other nation or group of nations, it is easier to conquer them when they are in a divided state than it is to conquer them when they are united in fact, purpose, and spirit.
It is one thing for the people of Scotland to strive for a greater voice in self determination while united in purpose and spirit, and it is another to strive for a greater voice in self determination while divided in geography, economy, purpose, and spirit.
Right now, the US is not united in purpose and spirit.
but they're all keen on keeping the muzzie population growing and their young girls kept as whores for their pleasure and their finances....
If they are (which I doubt), it would have to do with being internationalists and globalists. A move towards smaller government units would be regarded as a step in the wrong direction.
Plus, there may be some Downton Abbey anglophilia and nostalgia for the old FDR-Churchill alliance and the world it created. I don't see people under 50 or 60 being much taken with any of that, though.
It also may be more of an Establishment thing. With Scotland independent a lot will have to be reconsidered and reconfigured. For example, How justifiable is the UK's permanent seat on the UN Security Council?
What happens to the idea of Britain as a partner on various US military ventures around the world? To be sure they may have been a junior partner, but still, they did count for more than other countries around the world in such enterprises.
When it comes to political elites, I doubt it's only liberals who worry about things like that.
Divide and thrive could be more the case with the USA, though...
If we carved off the cesspools called cities, and let them govern themselves, and the rest of us govern ourselves,
I have no doubt who would thrive and who would flounder.
Scotland suffered the same fate as England, both world wars successfully thinned out the population of testosterone laden males and left them with wankers. England has a leg up because of sheer numbers but they are circling the drain as well due to the decimation of two whole generations of men.
And as for who wants Scottish independence, no matter what it is called or what Scotland’s legal position will be, liberals will ONLY want it if, in fact, it leads to more collectivism SOME HOW.
For example, there’s an 18 month transition window if they vote for independence. In that time, to “save Great Britain,” the British Parliament can use Scotland as an excuse to pass all sorts of more socialist laws, especially to attack the anti-EU factions in GB. All to “reach a compromise” with Scotland. Or, the fact of Scotland breaking off will, despite current talk of abandonment, enable Scotland to create economic pressure on Britain to change its policies to be more collectivist.
The irony, of course, is that anyone can even remotely see million-camera, disarmed, Muslim-infiltrated, NHS-locked, heritage-abandoned England as not collectivist enough - I don’t. That’s why I suspect the Crown is behind this whole thing as a series of chess moves to either crank GB tighter into the EU, or use Scotland as a wedge to simply force Brits into a level of collectivism they can’t even imagine yet.
I just want it to succeed because I want to watch the mechanics unfold.
Not actually true. Not by a long shot.
I just want it to succeed because I want to watch the mechanics unfold.
The circumstances here are a little different.
But it may be a prelude for the US, so I see your interest.
Soros came out against Scotland’s independence. If he’s against it, It must be a good thing. It’s about control.
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