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Why are liberals so vehemently, rabidly against Scotland's Independence? (Vanity)
vanity | 2014-09-17 | self

Posted on 09/17/2014 12:52:26 PM PDT by paladinan

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KEYWORDS: alexsalmond; independence; liberals; scotland; scotlandyet; unitedkingdom
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I admit to being out of touch with this: why, exactly, do so many liberals oppose a "yes" vote for Scotland's independence? This isn't rhetorical; I'm genuinely curious as to why they'd *care*, much less care passionately!
1 posted on 09/17/2014 12:52:26 PM PDT by paladinan
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To: paladinan

One word: Control. Liberals want to control everyone and everything and force their vision of a liberal utopia on all of us.


2 posted on 09/17/2014 12:54:34 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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um... that's funny ... I troll liberal sites all the time, and I thought they in general supported Scotland Independence.

Remember, Scotland wants to break off because England isn't liberal enough! ( I know, I know!)

3 posted on 09/17/2014 12:55:09 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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I didn’t realize that, but my understanding is that it is the young Scottish socialists that want independence.

Liberals usually hate nationalism and would prefer a single global government.


4 posted on 09/17/2014 12:55:21 PM PDT by MNDude
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I’m more concerned about why the Commies are all for it.


5 posted on 09/17/2014 12:55:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: paladinan

Just my opinion.
Scotland has, from what I hear, a government more socialist than England’s. As Margaret Thatcher said, “socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money.” I ‘m sure liberals are against Scotland leaving because, without the infusion of other peoples money, the government won’t be able to run on it’s own.


6 posted on 09/17/2014 12:55:52 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep...and they know that the welfare state will fail...miserably. At first I was against for that reason, now I am for it. I love the Scots. They have to feel the pain of stupidity to get right.


7 posted on 09/17/2014 12:56:16 PM PDT by gr8eman (Bill Carson...meet Arch Stanton!)
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To: paladinan
Because they hate .....


8 posted on 09/17/2014 12:56:28 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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The same damned reason that international socialists want to spread the misery....

Can’t have even ONE single other country practicing somethign different in terms of forms of government...

They think that having even ONE country in the whole world that is not socialist will cause socialism in the rest to fail... and they right about that because it exposes the house of cards they built their Neo-Feudalism on...


9 posted on 09/17/2014 12:57:15 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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Europe has a bunch of naval bases there and it would be a sh8tload expensive to have to move them.


10 posted on 09/17/2014 12:57:17 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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Many libs care because they want one-world government. It is so much easier to impose global communism if it’s just a question of taking over in free and fair elections, one man, one vote, one time, while the other side is not paying attention or looking for stealth candidates. It’s the same issue that motivates many conservatives to support Scotland’s independence - the precedent may make it easier for the patriotic states to secede from the USA (or evict the leftist states) to maintain freedom where the Constitution and our constitutional rights are still popular.


11 posted on 09/17/2014 12:57:48 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Yep the Scottish Socialists are the ones pushing this.

I am actually rooting for it, so liberals can be reminded again why socialism doesn’t work. Because if this passes, Scotland’s economy is going to go into the toilet faster than you can imagine.


12 posted on 09/17/2014 12:58:09 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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I was joking with some leftist friends about Scottish Independence. I said, if they can do it, why can’t Upstate NY break-away and leave NY and Long Island to form another state?

Its because libs plans all rest on using political and financial control of the largest number of people to push their agenda.

BTW - its also why the Federal Reserve is the absolute foundation of the Progressive State.


13 posted on 09/17/2014 12:58:34 PM PDT by PGR88
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It takes them one step backward from the one-world totalitarian government toward which we have been progressing for the past 100 years.


14 posted on 09/17/2014 12:58:52 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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I don’t think that is necessarily true. The liberals, particularly the ones in Scotland, desperately want to become independent so Scotland can be even more leftist. They already have a timetable to move nukes off their soil and everything. They can’t wait.


15 posted on 09/17/2014 12:59:05 PM PDT by Dave W
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Most of them are worried that once this gets started, many countries will split up.

If in America, states decide they want no part of a massive leftist state, the left might lose the hosts that do all the paying to feed the parasites.


16 posted on 09/17/2014 12:59:14 PM PDT by dforest
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They’re not. I hope are aware that Scottish independence is supported most strongly by the left within Scotland, particularly the Code Pink left, because they want the US military presence out, feel that the UK has cooperated too much with the US, and also are hoping to stop development because it’s RUUUIIINING the “environment.”

Oh...and Scotland has a huge welfare population and a larger Muslim population than most of the rest of England, so you’re just seeing the left at play behind Scottish independence.


17 posted on 09/17/2014 12:59:47 PM PDT by livius
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Because if all an area has to do is perform a simple up or down vote to get out of a 300 year old political union, they know they are screwed. The libtards have to hold it together to perform their transfer economics voodoo, if all the producers have to do is take a vote on whether or not to leave, that’s a show stopper for them.

Regardless of how the Scottish vote comes out tomorrow, I’d say the cat’s out of the bag. This is going to have longterm ramifications in all sorts of odd places around the globe.

Western New York is probably paying very close attention, especially those with strong interests in developing fracking. The Kurds? Hungarians in Romania? Brittany in France? Barcelona? Western Australia? If the Scots can vote, why can’t they?


18 posted on 09/17/2014 1:01:14 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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Seems to me that no one is looking at the deeper issues behind it.

From where I sit, Britain should open up access to the vast mineral wealth of Scotland and crush the Scottish socialists in one fell swoop.


19 posted on 09/17/2014 1:01:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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This is a no-brainer: because Scottish independence is a step back from world government. I’m surprised that a Freeper even needs to ask the question.


20 posted on 09/17/2014 1:02:19 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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