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Weekly Garden Thread Volume 33 August 15, 2014
Free Republic | August 15, 2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 08/15/2014 12:26:58 PM PDT by greeneyes

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To: tubebender

Yeah Mr. Binder I was so expecting to have a productive lush garden my first year back gardening. Once I pull my plants I will till my garden and hope I get some good recommendations for what to use as a cover crop that can be tilled in next spring. I have also started a new compost pile to till in next year. Just trying what I can to grow something and feel productive. Oh and my Pear and fig trees are doing great. The fig trees regenerated after the freezing cold this past winter killed them off and I should have a nice crop of fresh figs later this month or early Sept. And a big crop of cooking/canning type Pears to deal with. So all is not bad on my little farm. My wife bought some blue berry trees this last spring and she actually planted them by herself and takes care of them - so far.


61 posted on 08/15/2014 2:54:21 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: greeneyes

GOOD ADVICE!
:-)


62 posted on 08/15/2014 3:11:00 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: goodwithagun
‘Mater question: I have all heirlooms, they are loaded with green fruit, but the fruit had yet to ripen! Any suggestions? I’ve always grown heirlooms and have staked and not staked. I didn’t stake them this year.

Patience. I go thru this every year...last year, we had hundreds and hundreds of green tomatoes that seemed to have no interest in turning color. I told my wife that with our luck; they were ALL going to turn at once. A couple of weeks later; I called her at work and asked if she remembered that comment. When she said 'yes', I replied 'today's the day'. Mine are ALL heirlooms/open pollinated, they are trellised on cattle panels, and they seem to take forever every year.

63 posted on 08/15/2014 3:17:59 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: greeneyes

gun powder in the miracle gro. Works everytime! Lol =D


64 posted on 08/15/2014 3:26:11 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; greeneyes
Vegetable families , and crop rotation
Best chart and worthy of printing out:
http://www.organicsforall.org/vegetables.htm FAMILY VEGETABLES in FAMILY
Amaryllidaceae: chives, garlic, leeks, onion
Brassicaceae: horseradish, mustard, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, collards, cauliflower, kale, kohlrabi, radish, watercress
Chenopodiaceae: beet, Swiss chard, spinach
Compositae :endive, escarole, cardoon, artichoke, sunflower, lettuce, salsify
Cucurbitaceae: gourd, melon, squash, cucumber, luffa
Gramineae: corn
Solanaceae :tomato, pepper, eggplant, potato, tomatillo
Umbelliferae: celery, carrot, dill, chervil, cilantro, parsley, fennel, parsnip
Convolvulaceae (sweet potato),
Labiateae (basil),
Malvaceae (okra),
and Polygonaceae (rhubarb, sorrel).
65 posted on 08/15/2014 3:28:18 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (FUBO; Obungler = The didler CIC)
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To: who knows what evil?

Well, that will make canning easier lol!


66 posted on 08/15/2014 3:30:03 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: greeneyes
Got a bug that is attacking my Anna apple tree. Laughs at neem oil and DE. Very hard shell. It has wings, but I suspect they are only used to escape to the ground, as it's darn heavy and I've only seen it "fly" downwards. For now, I'm just going out and smooshing them by hand, but I'd like some advice on killing them.

bug

The leaves are curling inward and appear to be getting chewed on from the outside in.

damage

67 posted on 08/15/2014 4:39:53 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I have settled on Common Vetch for a cover crop that I weed whack and spade in but keep in mind that I Garden in the closest place to paradise that crummy weather can buy...


68 posted on 08/15/2014 5:24:16 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: greeneyes

I use winter barley for a cover crop. (and homebrew...)


69 posted on 08/15/2014 5:33:18 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: tubebender

Thanks, I am so glad you have grown some nice tomatoes in your crummy weather! Bet they tasted good!


70 posted on 08/15/2014 5:38:08 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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To: Red_Devil 232
There have only been 5 ripe ones so far but the future looks promising after trimming some of the foliage however keep in mind the blight could hit at any time and wipe them out...

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71 posted on 08/15/2014 5:48:53 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Chilly here in Connecticut also. I did get a good crop of patio tomatoes but the weather has stalled everything, so cut them all back and planted Garzania’s (annual on discount from Walmart) in the pots. They are an interesting flower as they open in the sun, close when no sun.
Feels like Fall like you said. 50 last night and not about 75 here today.
Went to the farmer’s market in town, not much there.
Grew up in NY- Hudson Valley.


72 posted on 08/15/2014 6:58:06 PM PDT by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: left that other site

Well, I try.LOL


73 posted on 08/15/2014 8:50:54 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: dware

LOL.


74 posted on 08/15/2014 8:51:21 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Good list. Mine is more simple: leaves, fruits(includes solanese) roots, and legumes.

Leaves are stuff that like high nitrogen like spinach and lettuce. Fruits are basically fruits and veggies, solanese as you noted, roots like turnips, garlic etc, and legumes are peas, beans etc.


75 posted on 08/15/2014 8:56:11 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Darth Reardon

I don’t do much with pesticides. Pick and smoosh, wash off, sometimes use homemade garlic/pepper spray.

My organic gardening book, says good soil equals strong plants, and that with crop rotation means the plants can resist the critters. Color me somewhat sceptical.

However, I tend to work on the soil, and plant companion crops so that my whole harvest isn’t jeoperdized when the critters find something they like.

To make the garlic/pepper spray: In a quart jar:

Onion, chopped
Garlic bulb, smushed with knife
Cayenne Pepper
Add boiling water and let sit overnight up to 24 hours.
Strain and put into sprayer
Add a drop or two of dish washing liquid
Add a drop or two of cooking or neem oil

Shake before spraying.
Spray only at night to help avoid harm to bees. This stuff is lethal to many bugs when first sprayed. One reason I don’t even use it much anymore.

But, it’s not harmful to pets and humans.


76 posted on 08/15/2014 9:06:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: wastoute

Another good one.


77 posted on 08/15/2014 9:06:47 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Darth Reardon

Here’s a link to a site that gives some advice on organic pesticides and various pests that you might find interesting. I warn you it’s kinda hard core organic. Tends toward not spraying, but still informative.

http://supak.com/mort/insects.htm


78 posted on 08/15/2014 9:16:20 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: mojo114
mojo114:"Feels like Fall like you said. 50 last night and not about 75 here today.
Went to the farmer’s market in town, not much there."

Joe Bastardi called for a serious warming trend for the East Coast around the middle of the month
We're there now , so the heat should show up pretty soon .
Tonight's weather here calls for temps in the low 50's and mid 40's; definately not tomato maturing weather ! According to NOAA, we don't hit 80 degrees for another week, supposedly on Friday (7/23/14), and then we will cry for air conditioning with heat and humidity.
Time will tell because the heat will mature those tomatoes, and they will be comming out your ear !
Stay tuned for Saturday's Bastardi weather analysis
Even Obozo complained that the ocean water was too cold for a swim.
I wonder if that affects his opinion/agenda about "GlowBULL" warming

79 posted on 08/15/2014 11:33:44 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (FUBO; Obungler = The didler CIC)
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To: mojo114
mojo114:" Went to the farmer’s market in town, not much there."

With all the rainfall over the past two weeks , and the anticipated heat expected in the Northeast, I imagine that there will be a short 'harvest season'.
Get your canning and freezing supplies set up for harvest.
Prepare to be overwhelmed !

80 posted on 08/15/2014 11:40:50 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (FUBO; Obungler = The didler CIC)
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