Posted on 11/23/2013 11:35:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv
Not that an apology or lack of apology would CHANGE my faith, of course. But it could change your relationship to God.
By the way Mr. “Sunken Civ” ... our America has no guarantee it will not sink too. Part of what was good (nothing was perfect, but there was much that was good) about old Americana has sunk, and badly. Maybe looking at more recent times WOULD be fruitful. Ancient arcanity is curious, but it’s already gone, usually with too few clues as to exactly why. America’s here and most of us are living in it, and its faiths of record are well known.
:’D
And yes, I’m irritated.
Maybe some of the insights of archeology could apply to trying to head off problems in the present day USA, but we have to be careful that what we call insights aren’t just circular reasonings.
We get ourselves all occupied with bread and circuses, of our own making if not the government’s, and forget what we need is a good moral rebuild job right now. Mock present day faiths all you want, but even an agnostic if honest would say this is it, doo-wop, as far as the spirituality we have available for all practical purposes.
Number one, I’m not mocking present-day faiths anywhere in this thread.
Number two, you’re a liar for saying that I have.
And. About the beer. I think it reminds us of something great. That heaven is a joyful place. That was believed in during a time of great misery and pain! Now you might think that is mere escapism, but look at how many modern “Christians” wallow in thoughts of a grim, hateful God. No “beer” happiness in heaven for them! And they often only barely dare to think of wine (because it’s in the bible, after all), while not actually being willing to use it here. Seems that escapism isn’t necessarily the norm, and/or escapism can also be into regions that are grim, not just those that are happy.
Relativize heaven away all you want, but then don’t complain you are left with what was once considered man’s main ally, now all relativized away. You did it to yourself.
It can be difficult to get one’s mind around the length of time before the existence of Judaism, out of which Christianity was derived, even for those who believe the Earth originated in 4004 BC.
It can be difficult to get one’s mind around the length of time before the existence of Judaism, out of which Christianity was derived, even for those who believe the Earth originated in 4004 BC.
Face it! And confess and repent. You were condescending, with your oh so open mind except when it comes to those you are face to face with. If Christian faith had been a historical artifact, ah it would get respect. For something we are faced with today, well it’s to make snide remarks about.
Again, that won’t change MY point of view. But it will affect how you relate to God.
And darn it. Heaven is full of joy. I’m only angry because you’re obscuring that.
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