The four Neolithic skeletons were found in a near complete state. Image: University of Barcelona
Posted on 11/23/2013 11:35:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv
Spanish excavations in Can Sadurní cave (Begues, Barcelona) have discovered four human skeletons dated to about 6,400 years ago. The skeletal remains of the individuals are particularly important as they are in a very good state of preservation.
An archaeological campaign carried out previously identified other individuals which were not so well preserved but belong to the same stratigraphic layer. Archaeologists excavating in 1999, also discovered within the cave, evidence for the earliest European beer, which may have been included as part of the death ritual...
A small landslip from the outer part of the cave must have taken place when the bodies had been newly interred, or at least when they had just began the decomposition process, as it has protected them in the position in which they had originally been placed. The group of four consists of a 50-year-old adult male, a sub-adult, and two children aged 3-4 and 5-6 years old. The adult male was accompanied by various burial goods including a two handled drinking vessel and joints of meat from two goats and a calf. Under the left arm, near the elbow, a polished bone pendant was found.
The bodies lay in a line and were curled up in tight foetal positions resting on their right side with their backs to the north wall of the cave. The rather extreme foetal position indicates that they may have been tied and wrapped in some kind of shroud.
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The four Neolithic skeletons were found in a near complete state. Image: University of Barcelona
Too heavy to be models in today’s world though.
They look pretty light now. ;’)
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The next world was supposed to be fun... hence, the beer....
Now I am a staunch Christian but I sometimes wonder about private ministries of the Holy Spirit, who of course always existed. Were some of these ancient peoples saved by faith through private revelations of God before the world knew formally about Judaism and Christianity?
Hold mah beer and watch this!
The very first rednecks?
It was cold that night. We drank the last of the ale and curled up to sleep. Not all of us made it.
Beer, schmeer - what is the earliest moonshine?
It must have been Keystone.
This one was a Red Forman “beer church”, apart from it not being a church at all. It can be difficult to get one’s mind around the length of time before the existence of Judaism, out of which Christianity was derived, even for those who believe the Earth originated in 4004 BC.
Judaism originated during the Babylonian Captivity; it is rooted in the Temple period (which saw its schisms), which in turn derived from the Tabernacle period, which originated and evolved after the Exodus, circa 1450 BC, during the forty years of Wandering.
It seems likely that both the Golden Calf and the Ark of the Convenant were built of the (Egyptian) coffin of Joseph.
Even after the Conquest, the various local gentry oppressed the Israelites for long periods, and there must have been a decentralization of religious leadership and practices. Whatever those practices were, they probably had local variations which were quite dramatic, and picked up bits and pieces of foreign cults in the area.
Everything that came before the Exodus is found in a greatly condensed form in Genesis. The only Biblical evidence for any kind of earlier priesthoods appear as non-Hebrew cults, such as Melchizedek (”Zedek is my King”) of Abraham’s time, and Abraham’s early attempts (taking his own son to sacrifice him).
The earliest surviving writing (that can be read, anyway; there is some kind of runic system preserved among the Neolithic cave paintings) antedates the Bible by thousands of years, and preserves scraps of other belief systems that come across as quite alien to us.
also discovered within the cave, evidence for the earliest European beer...
Ahhhh... So, even back then, European beer was imbibed at cave temperature.
Yeah it is only in Brittan that they decided to drink it body temp warm.
In heaven there is no beer.
That’s why we drink it here.
Heaven has wine, though.
I take the bible straightforwardly. It doesn’t bother me in the least that earlier writings may resemble certain things in it. That would be logical if the bible is the real deal and doesn’t present an argument against it being the real deal.
I don’t know why the jibes at some extreme forms of YEC. Our modern cosmologists, for reasons that have nothing to do with spirituality, have posited things like string theory and intersecting universes. We get odd stuff like dark matter that could suggest these things. Two universes that interpenetrate could furnish two frames of reference for the six day creation and the long eras that we observe in our own mortal coil. Suffice it to say that OEC (day-age theory) is considered to fall within the realm of orthodoxy by most serious evangelical scholars.
Ultimately I say I believe because I’ve met God. God closed in on me.
Those Irish wakes go WAY back.....
I didn’t make any “jibes at some extreme forms of YEC”. It’s been nice talking to you.
You didn’t? What was that remark concerning things a few thousand years old then? About my faith? It sounded like it. I would be glad to learn that it isn’t so, if you have a good explanation. If you don’t have a good explanation then an apology would be in order.
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