Skip to comments.Sarah Palin under fire as Arizona sheriff blames political 'vitriol' for massacre
Posted on 01/09/2011 11:19:07 AM PST by Celtic Cross
Can we blame political rhetoric such as Sarah Palin's inflammatory 'Don't react, reload' for triggering the Safeway massacre? It is not yet clear why a gunman, believed to be 22-year-old Jared Loughner, went on a terrifying rampage in Arizona yesterday, killing six people and wounding a further 12.
But whatever his reasons, the local sheriff - who is coordinating the investigation with the FBI - believes it is time for America to do some soul-searching
'When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government,' Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik told a news conference.
'The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous. 'And, unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the Mecca for prejudice and bigotry.'
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
The left doesn't miss a single chance--To them these tragic deaths are nothing more than a vehicle to attack Palin and other conservatives.
Gee,all these years I thought that the job of Sheriff was law enforcement.Now I discover that it’s really political pontification.Imagine my surprise!!
Wonder if he's gonna inflame some muzzie hatred with that statement...
Apparently this sheriff feels his job also includes given forth with his political opinions.- I haven’t heard anything on Fox or CNN about this Loughner and his left-leaning politics and rants on DU and YouTube. Not expecting to either.
Wonderful that our “cousins across the pond” are really into Clarence the Unbalanced Clown. They can have him. I’ll stick with Joe Arpaio.
I don’t think a Gay Commie is under the influence of Sarah Palin
Xian @ #3,,
Here you go.
I found this list at JOM.
Why dont people who are so intent on blaming things politicians have said for this tragedy ever mention rhetoric from Democrats and liberals including:
If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun, Obama said in Philadelphia last night. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. Ive seen Eagles fans.
And I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.
Or John Kerry who said on the Bill Maher show: I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.
Or Howard Dean I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for
and: This is a struggle between good and evil and were the good?
and we need to remember that the enemy here is George Bush, not each other.
Or Senator Chuck Schumer who called a flight attendant a bitch.
Or the Florida Democrats who ran an ad calling for the assassination of Donald Rumsfeld
Or New York State Comptroller Alan Hevesi who called for Senator Schumer to put a bullet between the presidents eyes?
Or Jonathan Chait who said I hate President George W. Bush.
Or singer Rickie Lee Jones who aid of President Bush Youre an ignorant, low-class, opportunistic man, both personally and politically, who does everything for political gain and nothing for the wellbeing of the people, and you should not be in office, and the kind of fascism youre perpetrating on our country we dont want, and youre out. Were done with you. Ffffhgggmm.
And when asked if she would be willing to take Bush out for the benefit of democracy? If I say that, I might get arrested when I go back. And I have to go home. Shes thinking it out carefully. I guess the question is, would I kill anyone? And the answer is, no. But would I feel sorry if someone killed him? No, I wouldnt. It would depend on who killed him, I guess.
Or The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn where they superimposed the words Snipers Wanted over an image of Bush delivering his acceptance speech at the Republican convention.
Or Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams who said she could kill President Bush?
Or Randi Rhodes who joked about killing the President?
Or Reverend Wright who called Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Condoskeeza [sic] Rice.
Or Englands Charlie Brooker who wrote: On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sods law dictates hell probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr where are you now that we need you?
The last news I received was that the guy is a left wing kook.
Vitriol is part of the political process, Sheriff. In fact, its part of the First Amendment and our right to freedom of speech.
This is another example of leftwing political correctness and hypocrisy.
Even Al Sharpton said that the sheriff’s words were “ill-advised”. Geraldo was sorely disappointed. He had Al Sharpton and JD Hayworth on his show and they agreed with each other. It left Geraldo sputtering.
The local sheriff should pull his liberal head out of his rectum and read this article.
The local sheriff may be trying to blame Palin/Rush and other conservatives for his failure to do his job re this self identified potential terrorist. Like why did this nut case have a gun and get by with threatening to kill cops?
What was the relationship if any between the sheriff and the parents/mother of the killer if any.
Why havent we read one thing by the left wing mediots about the parents of this insane killer?
Below is an excellent article re the insane killer with a lot of his personal quotes. No where did he profess any love/devotion for Palin/Rush or the Tea Party.
Suspect in rampage called very disturbed
TIM STELLER Arizona Daily Star azdailysun.com
The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday killing six people and injuring 13 others disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.
The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.
A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was obviously very disturbed.
He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts, said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community Colleges Northwest campus.
Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats werent against Giffords, Dupnik said.
Investigators are looking for a second person who may be an accomplice, Dupnik said. We are not convinced he acted alone, Dupnik said of the shooter. We have photos, he said, of a man in his 50s.
Theres some reason to believe that (the shooter) came to this location with another individual. And theres reason to believe the other individual would in some way be involved, he said.
Loughner has several online accounts, which suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His MySpace profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary School, Tortolita Middle School and Mountain View High School.
As a middle school student, Loughner was kind of an outcast, said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him.
In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner. At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.
Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.
He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but he was found to be unqualified, Homme said.
Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima Countys registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.
Sorenson, Loughners classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.
Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.
Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughners behavior stood out, Ali said.
It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about, Ali said.
Loughners online accounts contain some political comments but are dominated by bizarre discussions of his desire to establish a new currency and his disdain for what he considered the publics low literacy rates. He also wrote threatening and despairing messages.
WOW! Im glad i didnt kill myself. Ill see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesnt anyone talk to me? .. he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.
On Dec. 13, he wrote: I dont feel good: Im ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.
In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency. Im thinking of creating a new currency, he wrote. Therefore, Im thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.
He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a message on YouTube, Loughner wrote: The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate hilarious. I dont control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.
In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled Goodbye friends,Loughner said: Dear friends...please dont be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I havent talked to one person who is literate. It was unclear when it was posted.
In a MySpace profile, Loughner said My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college. Conscious dreaming is trying to manipulate your dreams, an interest Loughner pursued, Marriotti said.
He lists among his favorite books Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles, including: Animal Farm, Brave New World, To Kill a Mockingbird, and One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.
In another YouTube message, Loughner said: I know whos listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who dont know this accurate information of a new currency, arent aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldnt have happen.
In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know Im conscience dreaming! Thank you!
In a YouTube video dated Dec. 15, titled Introduction: Jared Loughner, he describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army.
In the video, Loughner makes a rambling mention of MEPS in Phoenix an apparent reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training.
Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests, it said. Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.
I didnt write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.
Sgt. Homme declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.
Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, online court records show.
In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriffs Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.
One year later, in October 2008, Loughner faced a local charge in Marana Municipal Court. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.
Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. Its unclear what the exact charge was.
Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade. Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.
He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didnt seem to care what people thought of him, Wiens said. He did his own thing.
Star reporters Carol Ann Alaimo, Alex Dalenberg, Fernanda Echavarri, Patrick Finley, Ernesto Portillo Jr. and Sarah Trotto contributed to this report.
The Democrats are beginning to look foolish on this one, just like the funeral celebration that they had for that Minnesota Congressman or Senator. They are exploiting another national tragedy.
Since this guy was a left-wing lunatic, I blame Barack Obama’s reckless quote, “They bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun” and Rahm Emmanuel’s demonstrative, “Dead, dead, dead, dead” as he stabbed a table witha steak knife signifying the imminent defeats of Republicans in ‘06. Clearly, THESE radical pols sent Loughner over the edge. Bob
Sheriff Dupnik, wasn’t the guy an anti-semite? The Congresswoman was jewish not Mexican.
And now the Liberals want to silence debate. This is because they are losing the debate. Liberals will always lose a reasonable debate if it is an open and truthful debate. What the liberals can not tolerate is the truth about liberalism. It sounds good but never ever works. They have just been given the Bums Rush by the people and can not tolerate it.
I find far more vitriol in the Sheriff’s words than I do in the people he’s complaining about.
Classic commie tactics there Sheriff. Wait, he’s a Democrat. Nevermind.
The good sheriff is fairly vitriolic himself, but it’s OK because his intentions are good.
He does really does. Reminds me of all the Lib Pundits.
Didn’t Rush L. Get blamed by Clinton for the OK City Bombing? We must expect this when ever a nut—even a leftist nut— turns to violence. Sad but a sign of the times. Never let a crisis, or in this case a tragedy, go to wast.
Wellstonian? nyaaa,, not quite yet..
hard to pass it up tho..
ya got guns, multiple fatalities, a large crowd,, oh and media.. lots of media,, then add new social media aspects and how it is used to create chaos and change..
Weird Times.. like a civilization is hellbent on destroying itself from within.. and to read some comments at news sites, succeeding.
Here is a Sheriff totally lacking in knowledge and understanding of the Constitution he has sworn to uphold.
This idiot needs to be voted out of office ASAP.
On the cable news channels last night, I saw Olbermann, Blitzer, and Geraldo all blame Sarah Palin for the shootings. I was expecting exactly that from Olbermann, was not surprised when Blitzer did it, but I was utterly disgusted that FOX would allow that scumbag Geraldo to say something that offensive. I’ve always had nothing but contempt for Geraldo, but FOX needs to hire his stupid ass.
Ever notice, how they are the “correct” people and position, *by default*? If we oppose their agenda, we are causing strife. Our speec opposing them is “vitriol”, no matter how civil we try to be. Does anyone remember Boehner opening the process in the house to include democrats? Of course not, that was last week. Does anyone remember Harry moving to end filibuster rules to remove power from the resurgent repubs? Of course not, that was last week too.
Of course, the strife and vitriol could just as easily be avoided, by them going along with the conservative agenda. After all, that is precisely the solution they offer us,, stop opposing themm so there will be peace.
This is not so much politics, as it is a bad marriage with a shrew, one who blames you for the discord that results from resisting her bullying.
I suspect that the Sheriff is terrified that he will be blamed for not providing adequate security. Though this really isn’t his fault, the idea that he is hypersensitive about it enough to want to divert blame probably means that he has some other, serious failings, that he is concerned could get him into trouble if he comes under the microscope.
“’The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous.”
Is that your official position, punk? If it is what do you intend to do about it? Who is suspect #1 in your view? When may we expect you to act to protect society?
Any dimwit knows that the problem in AZ is magnified by the bitterness the democrat thugs have spread about “repression” ever since AZ decided it would just enforce existing law. Any “law officer” that thinks that letting some select group or another flaunt the law should be removed from his job.
Weapons like the 9mm Glock semi-automatic handgun used in yesterday's killing spree are readily available in a state with relaxed gun control laws.
Well I knew the Leftist Gun grabbers would be out in force as soon as I read about this Assination shooting spree.
These Leftist are incapable of seeing the other side of this debate. If one of Giffords aids had been carring concealed the body count could have been considerably smaller.
With a complete ban on handguns Gifford would very likely be dead. Loughner could have stabbed the congressman to death with any number of weapons. Loughner could have made a bomb vest and blown up the congressman and many by standers ala sudden jihad syndrome.
If a person is willing to trade his life for the life of a politician there is little you can do to prevent him from succeeding if the killer has the wits to plan it well.
The guy wasn’t really anti-semite, so much as an anti-Zionist. There’s a subtle, but distinct difference. One is a raging liberal and the other is a European style “right winger”, aka, a Neo-Nazi.
Face it, though, the guy was delusional, and trying to pigeon hole his ideology is a waste of time. The left is making a good attempt at it though, in an effort to exploit this tragedy for political purposes, very much like the Wellstone funeral.
What was it that those Black panthers, in Philadelphia, were filmed saying about whites, something about killing them and killing their babies?
You mean this one?
I'll bet he has no evidence whatsoever to support his claim that verbal "vitriol" is responsible for attacks on govt officials.
There is a language of politics and all of these people know it. They are demagoguing about language that they engage in themselves.
Where is the 'hate speech' law now?
I was livid as I watched Geraldo last night, he need to go to cnn
Well sheriff, looks like you failed in your responsibilities to protect the citizens of your district, and now 6 people are dead....Oh, you don't like being blamed?... You couldn't have known? Why not?
You seem to have all the answers after the fact as to why this happened. If you had this insight, why didn't you have more security at this event; I mean after all with all those crazy Communist Manifesto-reading Tea Party types around and all.
Yeah, that’s the quote. Thanks.
Well, there are loopholes. Obama's Attorney General pointed out that hate crime laws cannot be prosecuted when the threats are directed at whites.
Using “under fire” in a headline is kind of inflammatory/sarc
Sarah Palin is "under fire". Doesn't that have a violent connotation?
I am so sick of these hypocritical idiots.
You beat me to it.
Oh shoot, I shouldn't use the violent word "beat".
ooops, did I use the word "shoot".
This sheriff was way out of line with his comments.He was on the clock.His job description does not include shoving his political viewpoints down out throats.One more liberal Democrat ,so eagerly blaming those “big old, bad old right wing conservatives” for everything bad in this world.
Hey, Sheriff, wanna see some REAL vitriol? Swing by DEMOCRAT UNDERGROUND’S web site any day of the week.
Those morons — the philosophical progeny of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Castro — invented hate.
The real story is the retired Army Colonel who courageously subdued the gunman with the help of another hero. True Grit and self sacrifice. He was wounded in the head as I understand it. WHERE are the articles on what these two brave men did. I suspect THEY are the Tea Party members in this event and not the crazy kid who is the Perp.
All this “Palin’s fault!” is just more proof how scared the left is.
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