Posted on 08/09/2009 4:45:11 PM PDT by Polarik
Basically, it comes down to this. I made a promise to my family get off of here, but continued to break that promise. There is sufficient momentum for the birth certificate issue to where any further research is unnecessary.
The fact that Hawaii refuses to authenticate or acknowledge producing the COLB that the libs insist that is real, along with the statements made to me by Dr. Alvin Onaka in late October, pretty much nixes any hope by the opposition that a real Obama 2007 COLB exists.
The libs can refute my research all they want, but it's not going change the reality that they are arguing about a nonexistent document.
It is they who are on the wrong side of reality, not me.
My last post says it all:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2311347/posts
If anyone believes that the one and only scan image was produced by what appears in the Factcheck photos, then there is seriously something wrong with their eyesight.
There is nothing wrong with the eyesight of scores of FReepers who saw shadows under the letters on the Factcheck photograph of a "real COLB."
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/small-COLBS/two-certfs.jpg
The image above is the photo I took of a real COLB using the same make and model of camera as Factcheck, except that I had a real COLB. The one on the bottom is the image with the shadows. Those pink arrows are pointing to them.
I would sincerely love to hear how the opposition explains those, but I gotta go.
I also leave with the challenge I made but never taken:
Make a real scan, naturally and honestly, that looks like the alleged "scan image."
No one can. It's impossible for several reasons. The colors of this image are so far off from the actual colors contained in a real COLB scan, that you cannot get there without extensive manipulation of the color curves.
Secondly, the background image and the text were deliberately subjected to heavy sharpening using an Unsharp Mask - but they were not done at the same time.
Lastly, that "funky" border, as one of my favorite critics described it, will not be exactly reproducible from any scanned COLB border in existence.
"Close" only counts in horseshoes.
No way. No how.
Oh, you may get close after playing around with all of the controls in Photoshop, but you will not get the border pattern right.
I know because I reproduced it (middle image), and I know how it was done - it was made separately and added to the image.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/FactCheck%20Originals/BORDER-COMPARISON.jpg
But, if you think you can do it, more power to you.
Rather than ragging on my research, which is what I do better than anyone, go ahead and do your own.
It's easy.
Oh, I forgot. You have to get a real COLB to do it.
Isn't it funny that none, nada, zip, zero of my critics has ever made a real COLB scan from a real COLB in over a year since I began my research, and actualy replicated what I did.
They'll make up some excuse for not reading all of my research report, like it was "too painful to read," and so forth. Then, they will do their own thing which is not remotely close to my thing.
Well, don't be discouraged: Factcheck never had a real COLB, either.
I would like to thank everyone who supported me and those who know me will be passing along the latest news on FR to me.
BUT, I am never logging back on FR as Polarik again.
That's a promise I will keep.
Thats Racist! (In a moose kinda way)
Hmmm, I missed those arguments!
There are four posters on FR that I search for specifically. You are one of them.
***Who are the other 3? Polarik was definitely an alpha freeper, and I’ve seen a reference to an alpha freeper list. I would imagine that someone with your tenure would have the weight to determine who’s an alpha to start.
I would obviously include JimRob as an alpha. Then after that, Alamo Girl, Betty Boop, Buckhead, trixie, Tony Snowe (died), Duncan Hunter (and his son, Duncan Hunter Ambassador), doug from upland, Kristinn.
Secondary alphas might be some of those who maintain the better ping lists like pissant, slings and arrows, SunkenCiv, coleus.
What do you think?
Did you know one day, when a hot thread was going, I told someone to keep posting updates while I took a shower so I could come back and read afterwards in 10 minutes?
I hate it when I create one of the jokes without trying!!
I hope your as clean as your tighty whitey’s. BTW Thats Racist!
Which ones?
I didn’t post troll like. I posted what I believed to be true. As soon as I was made aware of my mistake, I admitted it, took responsibility for it and posted the proof of my mistake. How is that troll like?
***It would have been troll like if you had not admitted it and apologized. Apparently by post 604 in the monster thread, you were still not apologetic.
I never got any sort of apology from the guy. It still is true, Polarik has photos and scans of Obama’s COLB, and of mine, he says both are fake. I know for certain mine isn’t and I posted the evidence of that as well. That being said, leads to it’s own conclusions.
***He probably would withdraw the conclusion that yours is fake, but it is embarrassing for him. If you recall correctly, I said that what you had posted would prove valuable either way.
I feel for the man behind the name Polarik, but I fundamentally have to disagree with his conclusions. If not for the reasons I already stated, then for this alone. You can not tell if a document is fake or real from a photo or a scan.
***Apparently you can tell a few things, like the fact that your document said 2007 on it and you were so insistent that you got it in 2001 that you probably weren’t correct.
You have to have it in your hands to do so.
***That’s pretty much what all of us have been saying all along, and the analysis in its stead is on 3rd hand information to show that it is disingenuine.
All you can otherwise say is that the scan or photo has been manipulated, and those are two different objects. Main document and scan of same document are two different things.
I am not disagreeing with the man, all I know for 100% certainty is that my COLB is real and issued to me by the State of Hawaii.
***That’s why I thought that your input would be valuable, and it is turning out that way, isn’t it? Basically what you generated was a red herring. Professional investigators are skilled at not following red herrings, but Polarik is not a paid professional. He made a mistake. Unfortunately for all of us, that calls into question his analytical abilities. And now he’s leaving FR. So we’re left high & dry, unless someone with equal or better abilities steps in. So how do we establish bona fides? All of this is done in a more or less anonymous fashion.
As for the rest of his research, that has to be left for the real Documents experts, of which I am not one!
***And neither am I. I appreciate what Polarik generated, I just hope it withstands the storm headed its way.
Your FR personal page sure is a mess, graphically speaking, for someone who’s been in graphic arts all their professional life.
Anyone.
One can't verify authenticity, but a fake can be discerned. A wrong border, never used on a genuine document, obvious anachronisms, use of fonts that didn't exist, lines going straight over folds made after the document was allegedly printed, etc.
Sometimes they just write themselves. I respect you here as a thoughtful poster and mean no disrespect. Polarik and his Opus is weak to me. That’s all
How does that explain Polarik’s decision that mine was a fake?
“Te veré luego”
Well that just blows
I’ll certainly miss you... If you do check in from time to time, please read your FReepmail...
See you around as the other FReeper. ;-)
Thanks for pointing that out. I dumped a text file in there when I created the account in February of 2005, more or less just to explain the meaning and significance of the screen name I'd decided upon, didn't even format or spell check it, and have not revisited it since.
That was despite best intentions of getting some interesting things I've gathered over the years in there, an audio file of an old Regulator drinking song about my collateral ancestor Ninian Hamilton at the Eno, photos of the memorial of The Battle Of Alamance, that sort of thing.
You know what "they" say, about the cobbler's kids and shoes, though.
It's high time I did something about it.
Yours was indeed fake, in terms of its provenance, the claims you made simply could not be true.
And by the way, Polarik was correct in his appraisal that it was not a genuine 2001 vintage document, as your finding the actual receipt did indeed demonstrate.
So long, FRiend.
Always,
Tex
~~It would have been troll like if you had not admitted it and apologized. Apparently by post 604 in the monster thread, you were still not apologetic.
Not only did I post the receipt that proved I was mistaken, I owned up to it and apologized!
~~He probably would withdraw the conclusion that yours is fake, but it is embarrassing for him. If you recall correctly, I said that what you had posted would prove valuable either way.
He could have done so privately in a couple of different ways. He chose not to. That says more about him than it does me.
~~Apparently you can tell a few things, like the fact that your document said 2007 on it and you were so insistent that you got it in 2001 that you probably weren’t correct.
My only excuse is this: I was just days past major reconstructive knee surgery when it was ordered, I still don’t remember doing it, though I can recall the reasons surrounding it when I was finally disabused of the idea it was ordered in 2000. I posted up the receipt from 2000 as well, which is the one my mother ordered for me. So I did not lie, I did indeed have a COLB ordered for me in 2000. I just did not and still don’t remember ordering the one in 07. I owned up to the mistake and took full responsibility for it, as I should have! That was and is the only right thing to do!
As for the rest of your post, I wish the man smooth sailing and calm seas.
You know that you didn’t deal with Polarik fairly. You know what you sent him. You know what you didn’t send him that he specifically asked for. Stop trashing him and go on about your business.
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