Posted on 02/26/2009 1:15:06 PM PST by jackofhearts
I have it on impeccable authority but cannot disclose my source within the Fox Network. Rest assured that Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdock are sitting on the Obama eligibility/birth certficate story. Everyone else wants to jump all over it, including Sean Hannity.
I say storm the Ailes/Murdock fax machine/email servers--let them know (politely) we need this issue thoroughly.
Maybe someone has the email/fax numbers?
Don't you dare insult me like that, I've made my position very clear with you on this topic, troll
Why? He is a disaster - spreading doom and gloom wherever he goes.
You said, previousl, to me — “Like that is somehow relevant to the topic, you must be desperate.”
And now you say — “Don’t you dare insult me like that, I’ve made my position very clear with you on this topic, troll”
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In case you don’t know it — that “you must be desparate” is “Baghdad Bob” talk... [just to clue you in...]
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And furthermore — to use the designation of “troll” — is what I would call a person’s “attempt” at insulting someone... LOL...
I was so disgusted with FOX on election night I have not watched the channel since - therefore I have not watched any news, as FOX used to be the only channel not in lockstep with the dems.
So let it be with Ceasar/Obama.
Buzz off
When you let foreign interests own your domestic media, you get media that covers the stories that promote the foreign interests. By not informing citizens of critical information about their government, they do terrible harm to the nation.
You mean you’re not even sorry for trying to insult someone? :-)
YES! This story WILL bust out someday (soon)!
Of course they’re supressing it. Obama likely was born in Kenya...people there remember it...and his grandmother who died suddenly during the last days of the campaign...told neighbors that her daughter’s baby was born in Africa.
But right now the economy is in free fall...the Messiah is seen as necessary to keep certain folks in line.
Nobody’s gonna cover this.
I believe it is because the FCC is going to change the relicensing period to 2 years and these people owning stations will be beholding to the kenyan.Obama. People who voted for the kenyan have really put this country in a pickle.
“Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us.”
Barrack Obama on the confirmation of Justice John Roberts
I haven’t disagreed with the need for the documentation. In fact, I argued strongly for it prior to the election. But, as I said before, “I lost...”. And — furthermore — what I’ve seen (thus far) has shown me that there is a big loophole in the vetting process (I’ve also said this all along).
My disagreement with a lot of these posters who “go on” (and on...) about this qualifications issue — is about “how to go about it” — and not that the documentation is not needed.
And also, I disagree with a lot of these posters about the “qualifications issue” in that Obama cannot be removed apart from the impeachment process (that’s what “I” say...).
So, it doesn’t have to do with me supporting Obama, but about this “process” that others are advocating is getting nowhere and is (what I consider) useless. And that’s why I’ve supported the process of legislation in Oklahoma, because I see that as a viable way to get the documentation.
I don’t see the court system as doing anything about it. And these other posters see the court system not doing something about it and consider that to be proof that it’s “crooked” and it’s “in support” of Obama (but I don’t think so...).
Anyway, I say all that, because I do argue strongly against what I consider to be something that is going nowhere. If it was going somewhere, it would have been *done* by now — a long time prior to the inauguration.
So, that’s what I say about it... and Obama is right, in what he said — even if he won’t do it for his own documentation... [however — *at the time* — I would be willing to bet that many FReepers would have told Obama to “buzz off” about his comments... LOL..]
You said — “By your namecalling you put yourself in the kook and troll and disinformation specialist realm. Counter with facts. Otherwise you’re defending the indefensible— a potential fraud on the American voter of gigantic (or should I say ‘global’) proportions.”
Ummm.., the “namecalling” is not limited to just one side of the issue. Take a look at some of my posts and then see some of the namecalling from what I call the Obama Derangement Syndrome group...
Listen mutant, buying into this marks you as one who belongs on another site that specializes in dubious sources and cockamamie theories.
You know, I was going to put that in my post using the technique of putting those words in your mouth and then retorting, but I figured that would not be respectful to you. I would wait for you to naturally respond that way and then retort. I thank you for supplying the comment on your own.
As Las Vegas Ron replied, "being better than they are" is what "they" count on. Conservatives, by nature, are not aggressive activists like the leftists are, which is why the leftists have no trouble playing dirty. They know that conservatives will shy away from a fight, to the extreme of staying home from an election.
That's why the innuendos that they hurled around before the election were those of being racist if we challenged Obama's experience, being racist if we challenged Obama's schooling, being racist if we challenged Obama's religion, being racist if we challenged Obama's friends, being racist if we referenced Obama's full name, being racist if we challenged Obama's constitutional qualification, and even being racist if we didn't vote for Obama. The result is that it drove conservatives to either vote for Obama or stay home.
So, "being better than they are" is bringing a knife to a gunfight, or rather, not bringing a weapon at all and hoping to reason with them.
THERE YOU GO..., that pretty much explains what the “Obama Derangement Syndrom” people (here on Free Republic) are doing. You said it — “providing innuendo” — and that’s all.
As for defining "Obama Derangement Syndrome," it is nothing of the sort. I am not endorsing this behavior out of blind hatred for Obama. I've been endorsing this behavior to be used against ALL Democrats ALL the time. Call it "Democrat Derangement Syndrome" if you must, but I am not an ODS victim.
That being said, I am also not one who is blindly putting my faith in the various court proceedings going on. However, I am also not shy about joining in on the various court threads to debate the possibilities. My focus has been on the PR aspects of the "whisper campaign" of all of this, that is, using the Democrats' techniques against them.
ODS would assume that the Roberts/Scalia/Alito/Thomas alliance would naturally rise up to force a fair hearing of the concerns, which has not happened. I was an early voice suggesting that the Supreme Court would never touch this out of fear of civil unrest, regardless of the merits. I can point to postings over the summer on the various BC threads where I've taken this position.
Therefore, it is the other, softer, backdoor, "whisper" methods that work so well for Democrats, that must be used here. That's what I advocate, and have been advocating for all issues Democrat ever since signing up here.
The mantra is "Perception is more important than reality. The perception of guilt is just as damaging as being guilty." That's why Democrats were so focused on "guilt by association" during the Jack Abramoff scandal, whether the Republican was involved with him or just took a small campaign donation. It's also why the MSM worked so hard to surpress the equivalent Rezko scandal of Obama, or the Hsu scandal for Hillary Clinton. They know the value of shaping perceptions, even if they aren't true to the degree of proof required in a court.
Look at how the Democrats and MSM trying to create the perception that Bobby Jindal has ruined his chance to be President based on Tuesday night's 10 minute speech. Barney Frank is telling everybody that Republicans caused the banking meltdown, and Republicans didn't applaud Obama out of fear of Hannity and Limbaugh. Harry Reid says we're losing in Iraq and the economy is getting better. I guess we're better than they are to the point of not trying to do anything that might taint Obama's authority, because we can't prove it in court, or even get a court to hear it.
But you're focused on the wrong court -- the court here is the court of public opinion. And innuendo, and whispers, and unproven charges, and hyperbole are the tools before that court.
-PJ
You don’t post at Democrat Underground ... using the name Star Traveler. Want to share with us what name you DO use at DU, janx?
I was remarking on the globalization of our media and how it harms American citizens. If you care to comment on that, fine. Why make such disparaging remarks when you’re not even on the same topic? That puts you clearly in the realm of disinformationist.
Not you
Ping to my post 156, since you replied to a reply to a reply to my post.
-PJ
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