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Evidence of pre-Aboriginal Australians?
The Times Online ^ | July 26, 2006

Posted on 08/01/2006 12:39:42 PM PDT by chichilarue

The suggestion that the artists who painted the Bradshaws were not the ancestors of the current aboriginal owners of the land has sparked consternation among the latter...Many aboriginal people also dislike the pictures, some referring to them as “rubbish art”, and for generations many have made efforts to paint over them or to obliterate them...

This is a treasure of which Australia should be very proud, yet when I went there this year I found people surprisingly reluctant to talk about it, almost as though they were ashamed. This may be understandable coming from the aborigines, who may be concerned that their own art is somehow diminished by Bradshaw art. I can understand that art experts and gallery owners, many of whom see the burgeoning market for aboriginal art as part of the last great artistic phenomenon of the late-twentieth and early twenty-first centuries, may feel that Bradshaw art, which no one is painting any more, is irrelevant. Even scientists and historians, who will be made to look a bit silly if it is proved that they have been wrong for so long in maintaining that man only arrived in Australia with the first aborigines some 40,000 or 50,000 years ago, can be excused a certain reluctance to rewrite history. But I did find it strange how hostile both the media and the government seemed to be to the subject of Bradshaws. ***The Rothwell article was the only manifestation of what appears to be a conspiracy to play the whole story down, either from misguided embarrassment or political correctness.*** Advances in dating techniques will one day provide the truth, but meanwhile it is far too good a story to ignore. Above all, the art itself is delightful and should be known to a wider audience.

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aborigines; australia; bradshawart; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; pc; prehistoric
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I have **** the sentence I think is the most outrageous portion. See the PC establishment go to the length of blotting out the history of an ancient society just so they can continue having something to feel guilty about. In Australia, the Aborigines are a protected class and no criticism of their absolute justice will be tolerated; it is literally against the religion of th e land to question the sob-story of Western oppression of Australia. The apparent Aboriginal genocide and attempt to obliterate the evidence for the previous inhabitants of Australia goes unspoken.
1 posted on 08/01/2006 12:39:44 PM PDT by chichilarue
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To: chichilarue
These things?


2 posted on 08/01/2006 12:43:40 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: chichilarue

Bradshaw art

3 posted on 08/01/2006 12:51:15 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: humblegunner

mmmmm, yes but there are other prettier ones, I just don't know how to post them.

Their quality is not the point.


4 posted on 08/01/2006 12:52:32 PM PDT by chichilarue
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5 posted on 08/01/2006 12:52:48 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: chichilarue
For similar controversies in North American history, look up Kenniwick Man or the theory that Clovis technology traces to Solutrean technology. Both of these topics point to "others" being here before the Indians. But we can't have any careless talk like that!

The Indian is the perfect victim; an image that gets a tad tarnished if they are just another bunch of invaders like the rest of us. As the perfect victims, living in harmony with nature and all the furry, woodland creatures and all that, Indians are darlings of the American Left and their culture of victimhood. And since victim status determines how much gubmint cheese your group gets, Indian leaders are careful to suppress any talk of "others" being on the continent first. I suspect that they pass out the cheese on the same basis in Oz. If that's so, then it's understandable that the Aborigines want to cover up any evidence of prior inhabitants.
6 posted on 08/01/2006 12:55:37 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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I'm totally with you on the reasons behind the cover-up, but I was no aware of the Clovis/Solutrean thing, that's really amazing. There's no talk about it...and as for Kennewick man, that too, I didn't know enough about it so I didn't suspect sininster motives. My favorite argument is that of the Umatilla Indians who claim that their religious beliefs are that they have been on the land since the dawn of time, so if the govt. denies this, then it's discriminating against their religious belief, lol...I think they've been taking lessons from imams.


7 posted on 08/01/2006 1:13:45 PM PDT by chichilarue
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To: Redcloak

Both of these topics point to "others" being here before the Indians.

If We don't know, how would they? 'Since the beginning of time' is very vague to say the least.


8 posted on 08/01/2006 1:18:31 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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ummm...if we don't know what?


9 posted on 08/01/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by chichilarue
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We won't know if research is hampered by special interest groups. The tribes in western WA and ID tried for years to get the right to destroy the Kenniwick skeleton. It looks like the courts have finally decided that they have no relationship whatsoever to Kenniwick man's people and thus no claim to his remains. Research is now being allowed to continue.

(On a side note: There was a Time magazine cover story on Kenniwick Man recently. Someone decided that a more PC reconstruction of his appearance was needed. The version that appeared on the cover looked far more "Indian" than the version that was released just after the skeleton's discovery. I guess that Time didn't want to have readers wondering how Patrick Stewart's doppleganger could have died along the banks of the Columbia River 9000 years ago.)
10 posted on 08/01/2006 2:37:43 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: chichilarue
Perhaps a prosperous society developed on those now sunken plains; gentle, little people learned to dress elegantly in tassels and mini-skirts and to decorate their hair elaborately.

Very odd. What basis is there for thinking these people were either little or gentle? Maybe they painted cute little pictures in between torture sessions.

Probably the same reason that archaeologists assumed the ancient Maya were peaceful ... until their writings were deciphered and it was learned they were about as bloodthirsty (literally!) as any people in history.

11 posted on 08/01/2006 2:58:11 PM PDT by Restorer
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This is really not the point. The point is not about whether the pre-Aboriginals were advanced or not or nice or not, but why there's a cover-up of their existence.


12 posted on 08/01/2006 4:10:36 PM PDT by chichilarue
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Note: this topic is from 08/01/2006. Thanks chichilarue.

13 posted on 06/30/2016 9:42:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: chichilarue
The apparent Aboriginal genocide and attempt to obliterate the evidence for the previous inhabitants of Australia goes unspoken.

But you forget history: Jean Jaques Rousseau, the intellectual "father" of Communism, created the false concept of the Noble Savage. The notion that human beings are naturally gentle, peaceful and cooperative and that class distinctions, capitalism and other "evil" Enlightenment concepts created tragedies that only Communism can heal, is fundamental to the Progressive mind. It's total BS but it's simple-minded enough for the masses to swallow whole. The lie must be maintained.

14 posted on 06/30/2016 10:25:31 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: SunkenCiv

The Ancient Rock Paintings of the Kimberley

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/bradshaws/index.php


15 posted on 06/30/2016 2:43:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: chichilarue; Restorer; SunkenCiv; blam; All

I am on vacation and borrowing a PC. Look up Cow Marsh, Australia, people. Or maybe Kow. Remains about 12,000 years old, but pre homo sapien. Maybe Aborigenal guilt for killing their predecesors. Goodby till I get home.


16 posted on 06/30/2016 3:58:02 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

I didn’t get any search hits that were relevant, probably best if you try it.


17 posted on 06/30/2016 6:14:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks!


18 posted on 06/30/2016 6:46:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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To: gleeaikin
The Bradshaw paintings are in the South-West Kimberley.
19 posted on 06/30/2016 8:00:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv; gleeaikin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kow_Swamp_Archaeological_Site

The Kow Swamp archaeological site comprises a series of late Pleistocene burials within the lunette of the eastern rim of a former lake known as Kow Swamp. The site is located 10 km south-east of Cohuna in the central Murray River valley, in northern Victoria, at

35.953553°S 144.318123°E. The site is significant for archaeological excavations by Alan Thorne between 1968 and 1972 which recovered the partial skeletal remains of more than 22 individuals.[1]


20 posted on 06/30/2016 8:18:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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