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Has U.S. Electricity Lost Its Spark?
Oilprice.com ^ | 03-04-2020 | Leonard

Posted on 03/04/2020 1:12:10 PM PST by bananaman22

Well, it happened once again. Sales of electricity in the US declined in 2019 by a significant 2.8%, despite solid domestic economic growth with real GDP increasing 2.3%. Sales across all categories of users—residential, commercial and industrial— all fell. To put this in context electricity sales have fallen in five of the past ten years.

From 2010-2019 electricity sales actually declined by a slight 0.1% while real GDP rose 22%, the population increased 7% and industrial production rose 17%. Note especially the last number. It has been an easy (and we believe lazy) claim to attribute every slackening period of electricity demand to a weak or disappearing manufacturing sector. In this ten-year period of industrial growth, electricity sales to industrial customers nevertheless declined by 2%.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: electricity; ev; us; utilities
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1 posted on 03/04/2020 1:12:10 PM PST by bananaman22
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My guess would simply be the forced retirement of incandescent bulbs .... as probably the biggest factor in that.... but that’s just a guess.


2 posted on 03/04/2020 1:14:08 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: bananaman22

A lot of low energy products out there like LED bulbs.


3 posted on 03/04/2020 1:14:41 PM PST by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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To: bananaman22

Perhaps appliances are more efficient.


4 posted on 03/04/2020 1:14:43 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: bananaman22

Modern appliances and electrical machines are more efficient than older stuff so I would expect consumption to decline because of that.


5 posted on 03/04/2020 1:15:54 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: HamiltonJay

Appliances and HVAC also are a lot more efficient these days


6 posted on 03/04/2020 1:16:06 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: bananaman22

We are more efficient. Do you still wanna be belching smoke from coal fired wind turbines into the atmosphere?


7 posted on 03/04/2020 1:16:14 PM PST by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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To: bananaman22

Bring on the EVs!


8 posted on 03/04/2020 1:18:39 PM PST by ctdonath2 (* - Interesting how those so interested in workERS are so disinterested in workING.)
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To: RatRipper

Yes, but the overall usage, I am sure is more for lighting, and going from 60 or 100 watts to 8.5 -16.5 Watts respectively is a HELL of a lot more overall drop in usage per item than all the appliances and HVAC’s in America.


9 posted on 03/04/2020 1:20:42 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ctdonath2

The Electoral Volts?


10 posted on 03/04/2020 1:22:33 PM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: HamiltonJay

Well, that was my first thought...LED CFL bulbs before that...I like my incandescent bulbs though....warms up the house...like an Easy Bake oven!


11 posted on 03/04/2020 1:23:51 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: bananaman22

Unintended consequences for forcing us to buy low energy equipment, so rates must rise to compensate the shareholders.


12 posted on 03/04/2020 1:24:12 PM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: HamiltonJay

ummm...average home central air conditioner uses between 3500 -5000w oer hour...you can look it up.

just sayin’


13 posted on 03/04/2020 1:27:32 PM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: IC Ken
A lot of low energy products out there...


14 posted on 03/04/2020 1:27:33 PM PST by Richard Kimball (WWG1WGA)
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To: treetopsandroofs

My daughter recently moved into a new built house. It is far more efficient than my 25 year old house. Very tight and well insulated. Much more efficient furnace, air conditioner, appliances, and lighting. My church recently completely replaced all lighting with LED, a couple hundred fixtures. Significant reduction in energy use.


15 posted on 03/04/2020 1:30:31 PM PST by Stevenfo
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To: bananaman22

LEDs have a lot to do with it. As people make the switch from incandescent bulbs that used 90% of the power they consumed to make heat to the LED that uses 10% or less of the electricity consumed to make light.

LEDs will glow even when the switch is turned off just from the very small current leakage or from the small amount of current on the neutral wire.


16 posted on 03/04/2020 1:31:39 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Covenantor

I don’t doubt that, but there are a hell of a lot more light bulbs burning than AC Units running in March


17 posted on 03/04/2020 1:32:00 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

LED TVs, More laptops than towers, LED lightbulbs (As you said) all adds up. My electricity consumption goes down every year, yet my bill goes up!


18 posted on 03/04/2020 1:32:42 PM PST by phs3 (MAGA - Winning a little more every day!!!)
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To: bananaman22

A statistically significant amount of private residences and businesses with solar panels or wind turbines.


19 posted on 03/04/2020 1:33:56 PM PST by Obadiah (Kill the deep state or lose the Republic.)
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To: ifinnegan

Our dishwasher is much more efficient. It’s dry cycle is useless so we don’t use it. We hand-dry all the dishes.


20 posted on 03/04/2020 1:33:59 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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