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Who was the greatest American soldier ever?
Unto the Breach ^ | 4 August 2019 | Chris Carter

Posted on 08/04/2019 2:20:07 PM PDT by fugazi

If you had to sit down with a pencil and paper and come up with who you think is the best soldier in American history, who would you choose?

Before we ask who we would choose, we better think of HOW we would choose, because to call this a hard question would be an epic understatement. How would we even pick what elements factor in? To make things easier, perhaps we could name some of our most famous fighting men and work backwards to the question. General George S. Patton and Gen. "Chesty" Puller probably come to mind for most history buffs; both were legendary leaders and tremendous force multipliers. If there was no Patton leading tanks across Europe or Puller commanding Marines in the Pacific, you could safely make the case that World War II would have been longer and more costly.

But narrowing our hypothetical question down to famous officers is too narrow of a scope. Besides, if you invented a program that mass-produced officers on par with Patton and Puller, but didn't have spectacular privates and non-commissioned officers to command, that force would be combat ineffective. So what about enlisted soldiers like Audie Murphy, who is perhaps the most-decorated soldier in our history? We have to be careful when considering medals, because the military awards process is flawed and highly subjective; for example, the chain of command can lose paperwork (perhaps intentionally); acts can go unwitnessed, such as if the whole unit is wiped out; the war might be unpopular; the secretive nature of special operations forces or combat taking place in sensitive areas; or any of a number of other factors. Plus sometimes well-connected people, like Naval officer (and U.S. Congressman) Lyndon B. Johnson, are awarded medals that they didn't earn.

Though the system has its flaws, at least medals are a decent indicator of valor, and that is why we publish citations for valor on this site.

Setting aside the big picture, what about a love of your cause or your fellow men that is so strong that you are not just willing, but knowingly sacrifice yourself? A man can do incredible things when pushed to extremes when it comes to staying alive and coming home -- some good and some bad. But what about the thousands of Americans that saw an enemy grenade land in their position, and in a split second decided to jump on that grenade to save his comrades? These men knew that -- if they were lucky -- the grenade will kill them instantly. Otherwise, they were almost guaranteed to die a slow, excruciating death. Whatever it is that makes a man make the instant decision to sacrifice himself for others makes a truly remarkable soldier.

Could we consider the impact a man had on the service, both on the front lines and later as an advocate for the troops or making a political stand? A young Smedley Butler lied about his age to join the Marine Corps, then fought in the Philippines, Cuba, China, Mexico, Hayti, and several other Central American countries before heading to Europe for World War I. The highest-decorated Marine of all time, earning two Medals of Honor and the Marine Corps Brevet Medal, became a veteran advocate after his career in uniform and wrote a book warning Americans of the racket that is war, and seeking to prevent the next war of choice, offered suggestions to limit the ability of the powerful to get rich off the sacrifice of young men.

Considering the numerous wars the United States has sent young men to fight and die during our brief existence, should we weigh service in certain wars more heavily than others? All wars are hell; some moreso than others. Plus, most of us know just a relative handful of people that served during our nation's earliest wars, and, since human nature doesn't change, you can bet there was just as much heroism shown during our 18th Century wars as there was in modern-day conflicts. Because while technology has changed over the ages, the basic components of war and human nature have remained constant since before Moses was even a corporal.

If you're like me, at this point you are still staring at a blank piece of paper, and have more questions about who may be our finest soldier now than you did before.

My conclusion is that it is virtually impossible to fairly pick one man out of tens of millions. Instead we could cheat and actually get somewhere by expanding to a list of our ten best soldiers. Near the top of my list would definitely be the late Col. David H. Hackworth.

Hackworth began his career at the tender age of 14 when he lied his way into the Merchant Marine and served in the Pacific Ocean. Once the war was over, the 15-year-old snuck his way in again, transferring into the Army, where he served occupation duty in Italy. He would later spend three years fighting in Korea, earning a battlefield promotion (making him the youngest captain in Korea), then spent another five years in Vietnam (the youngest "full-bird" colonel in Vietnam). During his storied time in uniform, Hackworth would become the most-decorated soldier since World War II, earned two Distinguished Service Crosses, ten Silver Stars (the most ever), eight Bronze Stars, eight Purple Hearts (tied for the most), and many others totaling 91 decorations.

Hackworth was a soldier's soldier. His first taste of war was at the age that we were just beginning high school. He worked his way through the ranks and, by the time he was a commissioned officer, hadn't lost touch of what it was like to be a private. He was extremely innovative, looked out for his men, and was damned effective in the field.

Yes, the Lyndon B. Johnson administration executed the war in such a way that there was really no chance for victory. But much of the blame also falls on the shoulders of the Pentagon officials that Hackworth referred to as "perfumed princes." Like Gen. Smedley Butler before him, Hackworth became an outspoken critic of our policies as a journalist and war correspondent and said that our military leaders "didn't know what the hell they were doing." His books and interviews are essential reading for anyone destined to lead Americans into combat and are a great example of the lessons our leaders should have learned and how we failed to adapt. You may not agree with his positions during the Vietnam War and afterwards, but if you look at what he is saying and consider why, it's hard to argue him on principle. He isn't some think tank analyst who might not even have any military service and he isn't carrying water for a particular political party or ideology (not that I can tell at least); he is a man whose positions are founded on lessons learned from a lifetime on the battlefield, coupled with a love for his brothers-in-arms.

David Hackworth was one hardcore soldier and clearly cared deeply for those whom Washington sends to war, and belongs in the top of my list of best American soldiers of all-time.

Click here to read citations for his two Distinguished Service Crosses and ten Silver Stars.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: militaryhistory
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To: JBW1949

My Father didn’t want to go. He had four children. He was drafted as were most men in his battalion but they performed brilliantly.

I have read their WWII history which is available on the web. Absolutely amazing what they did.


21 posted on 08/04/2019 2:39:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: fugazi
John Kerry obviously. He served in Vietnam, did you know that?


22 posted on 08/04/2019 2:41:03 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: yarddog

People for some reason like to denigrate Douglas MacArthur


Yeah, I’ve noticed many war history buffs dislike
egotistical and arrogant people in high places.


23 posted on 08/04/2019 2:41:29 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Dogfaced Soldier

I was going to say Sergeant York, but after reading your reply, I’ll go with George Washington.


24 posted on 08/04/2019 2:44:39 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (It's Ok to be white.)
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To: Dogfaced Soldier

I don’t know if you can pick one “greatest” but I’ve always been an admirer of George Washington, Ulysses S. Grant, and Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Pretty conventional, I know, but that’s what I’ve come up with after a lifetime of reading history.


25 posted on 08/04/2019 2:45:03 PM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: fugazi

Matthew Ridgeway.


26 posted on 08/04/2019 2:45:09 PM PDT by agere_contra (Please pray for Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: sparklite2

The greatest American battlefield commander, one who did the most with the least is Georges Rogers Clark!

Look what he did with 170-188 men!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_campaign


27 posted on 08/04/2019 2:47:10 PM PDT by Reily
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To: fugazi

While my first choice remains George Washington, I think that MG Smedley Butler deserves an honorable mention. A two time medal of honor winner and at the time of his death the most decorated Marine in history. Plus I like his quote that war is a racket where the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.


28 posted on 08/04/2019 2:47:25 PM PDT by Dogfaced Soldier
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To: yarddog

My dad volunteered when he was 18 because his dad wouldn’t sign for him to leave Tennessee to play pro minor league baseball...

He went to Europe with Patton’s Third Army as an infantryman...


29 posted on 08/04/2019 2:47:28 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: fugazi; Travis McGee

G.I. Joe.

Not the action figure, the guy Eisenhower mentioned by name, the citizen soldier.

I knew him, actually.


30 posted on 08/04/2019 2:49:04 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: fugazi

George Washington without the slightest doubt. He created the Army, held it together in the most difficult times it has ever faced to this and led it to victory over the greatest power in the world. He never attempted to tell the civilian government what to do, never attempted to take over the government, and when he was elected President, he made sure to rule as a civilian and not as a General or a King. We have been blessed in critical times with other great military leaders but none carrying the load Washington successfully carried.


31 posted on 08/04/2019 2:51:29 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Reily

That’s impressive and probably had more effect on history than the individual soldiers/officers of modern war, given that it took place when it did.

Otherwise, the notion of who’s greatest individual escapes me. There are too many candidates.


32 posted on 08/04/2019 2:52:14 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2
But Douglas MacArthur wasn't a bit more egotistical than George Patton, and MacArthur made brilliant plans revolving around using logistics to force an enemy simply because his supplies were cut off whereas Patton didn't seem to give a crap how high his casualty rates were.

I think that there are simply a lot of historians who aren't capable of comprehending some of MacArthur's plans, and they blame their lack on him.

33 posted on 08/04/2019 2:53:02 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Reily

Clark was great but I think John Singleton Mosby was even better as was Nathan Bedford Forrest.


34 posted on 08/04/2019 2:55:03 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Michael.SF.

So if Sherman was a war criminal, so were all the American bomber pilots of WW2 who unloaded on civilian areas of Europe and Japan. I have lived in Georgia all my life except my career in the Army. Sherman was hated here but he introduced the concept of total war and showed future generations how to end wars sooner, thereby saving lives and treasure. He was a great General.


35 posted on 08/04/2019 2:55:32 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

He does not even salute properly. The hand should be straight, not weak and curved as his is in the photo.


36 posted on 08/04/2019 2:56:39 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: fugazi

Any man or woman who voluntarily (or was drafted) wore the uniform of Our Nation.

There are exceptions, but anyone who has served in the military is #1 in my book.

Thank you all for your unselfish service and sacrifice.

What I owe you cannot be repaid.


37 posted on 08/04/2019 2:57:14 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: Midwesterner53

Plus he looks stoned out of his mind.


38 posted on 08/04/2019 2:57:31 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary walks free, equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: MrEdd

MacArthur graduated number 1 in his class at West Point.

He just might have been pretty smart.


39 posted on 08/04/2019 3:01:09 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

MSgt Dan Daly, USMC.


40 posted on 08/04/2019 3:02:20 PM PDT by catman67 (14 gauge?)
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