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Collapse of Aztec society linked to catastrophic salmonella outbreak
nature.com ^ | 2/16/17 | Ewen Callaway

Posted on 02/20/2017 6:10:07 PM PST by Rebelbase

One of the worst epidemics in human history, a sixteenth-century pestilence that devastated Mexico’s native population, may have been caused by a deadly form of salmonella from Europe, a pair of studies suggest.

In one study, researchers say they have recovered DNA of the stomach bacterium from burials in Mexico linked to a 1540s epidemic that killed up to 80% of the country's native inhabitants. The team reports its findings in a preprint posted on the bioRxiv server on 8 February1.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: epidemic; foodpoisoning; salmonella
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To: artichokegrower
Cortez

... what a killer

(Zuma)

21 posted on 02/20/2017 6:38:54 PM PST by BlueDragon (my kinfolk had to fight off wagon burnin' scalp taking Comanches, reckon we could take on a few more)
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To: dp0622

If they didn’t have good medical care (and I think that the Azteks had almost no medical technology), they could very easily die of salmonella poisoning. Diarrhea is a common symptom of salmonella poisoning, and severe diarrhea can be fatal without treatment.


22 posted on 02/20/2017 6:38:58 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Pontiac

I had lasagna


23 posted on 02/20/2017 6:43:26 PM PST by digger48
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To: Rebelbase
Historical Review: Megadrought And Megadeath In 16th Century Mexico (Hemorrhagic Fever)

"The epidemic of cocoliztli from1545 to 1548 killed an estimated 5 million to 15 million people, or up to 80% of the native population of Mexico (Figure 1). In absolute and relative terms the 1545 epidemic was one of the worst demographic catastrophes in human history, approaching even the Black Death of bubonic plague, which killed approximately 25 million in western Europe from 1347 to 1351 or about 50% of the regional population."

"The cocoliztli epidemic from 1576 to 1578 cocoliztli epidemic killed an additional 2 to 2.5 million people, or about 50% of the remaining native population. Newly introduced European and African diseases such as smallpox, measles, and typhus have long been the suspected cause of the population collapse in both 1545 and 1576 because both epidemics preferentially killed native people. But careful reanalysis of the 1545 and 1576 epidemics now indicates that they were probably hemorrhagic fevers, likely caused by an indigenous virus and carried by a rodent host.",/I>

24 posted on 02/20/2017 6:43:39 PM PST by blam
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To: exDemMom

I can attest to that.

Had an “enterovirus of unknown origin” a couple of years ago.

About squirted myself to death. When my son took me to the ER, my BP was 60/40 and I was in acute renal failure.

My brother also got it, but not quite as severe. We had both eaten the same chimichanga lunch special at a local Mex joint.


25 posted on 02/20/2017 6:48:33 PM PST by digger48
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To: Reno89519

500 years later Taco Bell keeps a tradition alive...

Try the burritos.


26 posted on 02/20/2017 7:04:31 PM PST by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: DesertRhino

The Aztec were hands down the worst people to ever walk the face of the earth. Cortez was an instrument of divine justice.


27 posted on 02/20/2017 7:06:02 PM PST by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: artichokegrower

+1


28 posted on 02/20/2017 7:14:34 PM PST by Pit1 (CROOKED HILLARY. Has such a nice ring to it. CROOKED HILLARY.)
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To: Rebelbase

Bad burritos?


29 posted on 02/20/2017 7:43:37 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Rebelbase

Bernard Castillo Diaz made 18 references to abundant activities of Sodomites among the elite ruling class that were the relgious priests. I think their population dwindled because the attraction male to male brought down the birth rate, PLUS their obsession to sacrifice their children.... a few die on the hunt of the jaguar, and a few drown in a river, and others warring with neighbors die. YOU need heterosexual couple to keep up the HERD population, they didn;t have this...so they died out...


30 posted on 02/20/2017 7:58:52 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: exDemMom

What do i know, i’m a guy :)

I thought my family just stayed home like it was the flu till they were better.

I guess you’re saying there are treatments for it now?


31 posted on 02/20/2017 8:06:28 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper cbrust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: exDemMom

The only treatment i see is drinking fluids.

Nothing else.

Even now. Odd.

Even if only 40 percent survived, that does not wipe out an entire civilization. I might have to actually read the whole article now :)


32 posted on 02/20/2017 8:08:46 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper cbrust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: exDemMom

Even the article says it would have killed 15 percent who got it back then.

They think other illnesses contributed to the demise of the civilization

Kind of false title.


33 posted on 02/20/2017 8:12:13 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper cbrust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Rebelbase

Wash your hands before you eat!


34 posted on 02/20/2017 8:32:44 PM PST by KosmicKitty (Waiting for inspirations)
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To: rovenstinez

Lots of parallels to the USA (and much of the world) today.
Homosexuality? Check
Abortion? Check
Pedophilia? Probably.... we need to check on that

As ruthless and cruel as the Spaniards were, they were actually God’s instrument serving judgement on the Aztecs.


35 posted on 02/20/2017 9:16:48 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: WMarshal

In what way?

There’s virtually no way of getting unsanitized, accurate information on an indiginous third world culture on the internet.

They were all peaceful natives living in paradise until the evil white men came along and corrupted them and took advantage of them.

I know they were into human sacrifice and cut the hearts out of living victims.

Does it go beyond that? ( As if that’s not bad enough)


36 posted on 02/21/2017 1:03:06 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: WMarshal

>The Aztec were hands down the worst people to ever walk the face of the earth. Cortez was an instrument of divine justice.

The Mayans and pretty much all the Indian tribes where just as bad. Heck I read a story from an very old Eskimo man who described how they waited till the men went out fishing and then wiped out a rival tribe by gang raping their women to death and murdered the children . Primitives are massively more violent and disgusting than civilized people are.


37 posted on 02/21/2017 1:07:36 AM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: dp0622
I guess you’re saying there are treatments for it now?

\ Treatment for salmonella would be electrolytic fluids (like Pedialyte) and for severe cases of diarrhea, intravenous fluids.

I doubt the Aztecs would have known anything about electrolytes, and certainly were not capable of delivering fluids via IV.

38 posted on 02/21/2017 2:32:29 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

yet we are always told how advanced and better than as they were.


39 posted on 02/21/2017 6:16:19 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper cbrust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: RedWulf
True, tribal people are much more violent but the Aztecs were a city-state empire like Rome and practiced depravity and evil on an industrial scale like no other people known.
Indeed, Tenochtitlán and two allies went to war with the Tepan- ecs in 1428, came out victorious, and gained much land and tribute as a result. This event marked the true beginning of the empire’s rapid expansion and regional dominance, but it was more than the victory in itself that provided the impetus. After the victory, the ruling elite initiated a series of reforms: destruction of existing documents and re- writing of history and mythology; increased militarism accompanied by great rewards for taking captives in battle; and the institution of tearing out the hearts of up to tens of thousands of captives at a time upon the Templo Mayor. Mass sacrifice soon assumed a dominant role."
Source: Aztec Human Sacrifice: Primitive Fanaticism or Genius of Empire?, Nathaniel Young, Page 115

40 posted on 02/21/2017 7:43:40 AM PST by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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