Posted on 02/10/2017 11:11:01 AM PST by MeganC
There are some people in California currently gathering signatures to get an initiative on the ballot to change the language in California's constitution to allow California to secede from the USA. If it passes the law will also put a question on yet another future ballot asking if Californians want to secede. If the vote is yes then it becomes their declaration of independence.
It might happen. I won't rule it out especially after 2016 in which so many 'impossible' things happened.
So what happens if California votes to secede?
Well, before they vote on independence but after they vote to enable secession I hope that Congress first acts to keep the loyal counties of California within the USA. The precedent is West Virginia being severed from Virginia when Virginia seceded. Congress can create the State of Jefferson and include the counties that want to leave California anyway. I hope they do.
California cannot be allowed to use the US dollar. If they leave they must be immediately cut off from our banking system. Otherwise they will use their access to wage economic mayhem against us and they'll also use the dollar to prop up their economy.
The US will need to think about what to do with Californians who wish to flee to loyal states. We'll also need to think about how to treat those who stay. After what point will we consider Californians to be foreigners?
The US needs to withhold funding for all long-term infrastructure projects in California. Governor Jerry Brown wants the rest of us to pay for his choo-choo train and for his hundred-billion dollar Delta Tunnels project - which will funnel water to disloyal Southern California. I know I don't want Wyoming footing part of the bill for this.
What do we do when California inevitably allies itself with Russia and/or China? Will we allow the Russians and or the Chinese to base ships, planes, and troops in California? Because you know they will.
One thing I think should also be done is to cease the recognition of all academic degrees from California and to remove California educated academics from American schools and universities. Don't let them spread the contamination!
Just starting the discussion and hoping that anyone in California who supports secession will maybe see some of the ideas we all post here and then take a moment to consider the potential downsides of their independence.
Ridiculous post. Laughable.
In the event that happens the president may nationalize the California National Guard. It immediately becomes subject to the US Army command structure. There goes Jerry’s army.
Great start. Let Trump negotiate it. Then let go only the counties that want to go.
If California want out of the Union I say vaya con Dios.
I just want to know how I can help them leave?
The SCOTUS didn’t settle anything.
The whole state needs to go. It can sub divide on its own, I do not want anything holding up this deal.
And with all honesty I expect the latter is more likely.
I would say if California secedes there ain’t squat you or anyone else is going to do about it. Nobody is going to invade CA. Nobody.
The only thing less certain or possible than California seceding is the chances of CA being invaded by the US Army.
Texas, Nevada, and Iowa take heart. Two rock solid California conservatives may be moving soon to one of your states.
Why all the bellicosity towards a state going independent? WTH?
“Will we allow the Russians and or the Chinese to base ships, planes, and troops in California? Because you know they will.”
That’s the only sane argument I’ve hard against letting them go. Couldn’t we just make it very clear to the Caliban that we’ve gone back to scorched earth Monroe doctrine? If they tried it, they’d be the new Cuba, politically and econimically. If they really want to go that bad, why don’t we just say sayonara?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8fkpZon4zc
Extend the wall to cut the coastal areas of CA off (we will take the farm lands), give them unrestricted immigration and call it MAXICO.
If they leave the union, we should declare war, invade and then deport anyone who voted to leave.
It amazes me how many Freepers are closet fascists. Do you have a funny little mustache?
If the US Army ever invades CA then there will be 10 civil wars and not just one.
There is NO LEGAL way for California to secede, any action taken towards that end is an act of TREASON against the United States.
We went through this already 150 years ago
Once you understand the liberal mindset, you’ll understand that there is NO WAY California will break off.
What we think we see is a bunch of liberals wanting to rule over a state filled with liberals. No, they don’t, they want to rule over TEXAS and every other red state - the left is NEVER happy ruling just over themselves, they need to stick it in our faces...re-educating Red America...camps if need be...or worse.
And they nearly achieved that dream in 2016, except for Trump winning. And they’ll never stop trying...so that forces them to remain part of America. When you thirst ABSOLUTE POWER (think Stalin, Mao, Hitler...) you’re never satisfied with some little enclave. So even if a secession vote passes, the legislature won’t lift a finger - or else they forfeit the BIG PRIZE, which is ruling over Texas and other like states.
Please quote the article and section of the US Constitution that pertains to secession. Waiting....
Oh no we wouldn’t. We need all that electric for ourselves. We also could use all that Colorado water to irrigate the new and fertile farm lands
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