Posted on 09/24/2016 8:30:38 PM PDT by T-Bird45
You have inside info or a source on this? Also, tell us about all the bad guys you've taken down at gunpoint.
Ed
“I point my pistol at people all the time because they pop up out of nowhere and approach me.”
If I acted like that, I’d be in orison. Glad I avoid cops. God Bless ‘em.
“Sometimes they are suspects, sometimes they are good people and there has been a misunderstanding. After I point my gun at them, some of them get scared and freeze. I ask them to show me their hands and they do so. Then I ask them what they are doing. They are usually horrified. They usually explain that they didn’t mean to run up on me like that and then they explain their problem. If their problem makes sense, I would lower my gun and I would assist them. I might check them for weapons. I would immediately explain to them why I pointed my weapon at them and apologize for frightening them. Sometimes when that happens, the person responds with anger. They may curse me out and accuse me of being a rogue cop or something. In an angry manner, they explain why they ran up to me and explain their problem. If their story sounds logical, I would make sure they didn’t have any weapons on them, explain to them how the situation appeared from my perspective and we would move forward. Both of those responses are normal.”
Again, that’s why I avoid cops, actually, most people in fact. God Bless ‘em.
WOW...tmi for now.
“Hope that’s not off-topic, sort of related.”
Very relevant and a timely observation to increase perspective. (Don’t worry about going off topic. We’ll just assume you are off your meds. ;)
Just an FYI - the detective who wrote the piece is a she/her/female. There’s a photo at the link.
Thanks - I thought so and that’s why I posted it. Even though it is very long-form and a departure from the usual postings on FR, I thought the depth of information and perspective gave it value for the time taken to read the whole thing. We have become so used to small packages of info, all sliced and diced for easy consumption, that a longer read seems daunting (tldr???). Intellectual honesty ought to drive conservatives in the opposite direction, IMO.
Good to read this, but from the first paragraph I read about this, and watching the video, I see how this man got shot. Doesn’t excuse it, but it provides a logical progression. This dead man shares the most burden for his own demise.
Man parks car in middle of road. Man behaving weirdly. Man refuses to obey commands. Man has a record of selling and using PCP. Man has PCP in his car.
When in Arizona and you hear hoofbeats, it is logical to think horses, not zebras.
Two thoughts - if toxicology shows pot laced with PCP, then it wouldn't matter if she was a 100 lb. officer, or a SWAT team member ‘roided out at 300 lbs.
I lived in OC before crack and PCP. Once those arrived, along with Jamaican posses, crime was much different and more dangerous. I remember several instances where it took six or eight officers to subdue one perp.
Good article, thanks for posting.
I thought she was married to one of the cops in the chopper.
I do not understand the First Degree Murder charge. It may be an Oklahoma angle, but that seems like a vast overcharge.
I thought that 1st degree murder was always premeditated.
In 2015, according to federal crime statistics, a police officer of any race is 18 times more likely to die at the hands of a black man, than a black man is to die at the hands of a police officer.
"The Myths of Black Lives Matter" by Heather MacDonald)
I suspect that any athlete from a championship BB team, male or female, will still be in better shape 30 years later, than most dudes from off the street. With the training she has as an officer, if she can't bring a 135 lb. guy down, then I would say that PCP must really change the equation.
We know little about the Tulsa officer, but all ladies I have met that became officers all started out as HS or college athletes. Even fly-over Tulsa has police standards to meet.
Not murder, manslaughter in the first degree is the charge.
I saw only one local story that mentioned that detail and have seen nothing since that time. Thus, I have no confidence in that information to either confirm or give an alternate piece of info. If it’s germane, I’m sure it will develop over the course of the prosecution.
I wish the prosecutor waited a few more days before filing charges.
Sorry about that double-post...was trying to figure out HTML...
As do I and I have hopes that the prosecutor eventually joins us in that wish after the voters turn him out when he stands for election again. For this to be realized, there will have to be a few facts come out that have not been revealed previously. The Tulsa PD investigation that is not complete and the toxicology screen are the keys to this, IMO. This makes the rush to file charges appear even more a political act than the act of a prosecutor.
Few of us civilians have taken down anyone. Thank God.
Is that your pre-requisite for forming an opinion? (Especially, an opinion on an eye witness video.)
There were four cops.
They know exactly what happened.
They reported what happened.
There’s the video of what happened.
Cops report + Video = manslaughter.
End of story.
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