Let them go Third Party, Reagan lost 15% of Republicans and crushed Carter anyway

The Coach's Team ^ | 5/9/16 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

[Oldpuppymax]

The quislings who want to run a stooge like Mitt Romney Third Party to elect Hillary Clinton are selfish enemies of our freedom. Nevertheless, what they want to do will fail and they will be disgraced. In 1980 the Republican establishment hated Ronald Reagan every bit as much as they hate Donald Trump today. We didn’t know much about this because there was little reliable coverage by a media which, then as now, hated all Republicans. They ignored most of what went on except anything they could be used to hurt Republicans.

For those who are unaware of the history of the GOPe’s hatred for those they see as a threat to them, in 1980 the Republican establishment so hated Reagan that they actually made good on their threat to run a third Party candidate to derail him.

They got a little known Illinois Congressman named John Anderson to run. It was as disgraceful a display of selfishness as we are seeing from the GOPe and the slugs at National Review on Line today.

Overnight the Reagan haters poured money and ground troops into Anderson’s campaign and overnight he qualified in every state. He got little traction however and was dispatched by Reagan in a debate which ended his chances of winning. From the start his support bounced around...

[stanne]

Nope. I’m watching FOX news and Brett (debate moderator, Trump harasser) Baier himself says Trump has to schmooze the Republican Party.

[KC_Conspirator]

Its a different era than in 1980.

And it won't be 15%. More like 1-3%, tops, if that.

That being said, I would like to bring these crybabies into the fold because some of them have good resources.

[nascarnation]

[yuleeyahoo]

John Anderson, after being defeated in the Republican primaries, entered the general election as an independent candidate, campaigning as a moderate Republican alternative to Reagan’s conservatism. However, his campaign appealed primarily to frustrated anti-Carter voters. - Wikipedia

[ColdSteelTalon]

I always vote conservative. If a candidate does not support the conservative ideals consistently, then... I vote my conscience.

[Nacho Bidnith]

I always vote conservative. If a candidate does not support the conservative ideals consistently, then... I vote my conscience.

If that's the case, who was the last presidential candidate you voted for?

[ColdSteelTalon]

If that's the case, who was the last presidential candidate you voted for?

I was able to vote for the most conservative one on the primary go around.

I will have to evaluate and decide again after the nominee is decided.

[trebb]

I was able to vote for the most conservative one on the primary go around. I will have to evaluate and decide again after the nominee is decided.

Then I suggest you ping your conscience like a number claimed they did in the last election - write-in Virgil Goode because that worked out so good for us. Obama thanked them and Hillary will also thank those who "follow their conscience....."

[trebb]

Just out of curiosity, what does you conscience tell you about donating to FR? Does it follow the more conservative line of paying your own way or does it tell you to do otherwise?

[toast]

I voted for Perot in ‘92.
After Clinton was elected with a minority vote I vowed I would never vote third party again.

Vote your conscience in the primary. Vote your party in the general.

[usurper]

I was able to vote for the most conservative one on the primary go around.

I do the same thing and always with the same result. Here is the list:

Pat Buchanan

Fred Thomson

Herman Cane

Ted Cruz

I am afraid that my support for a candidate may be the kiss of death :(

[SamAdams76]

Good post. The whole John Anderson independent thing was driven by establishment Republican elites who could not bring themselves to vote for the “uncouth” and “unsophisticated” Ronald Reagan.

Reagan made up for their defection by bringing millions of blue collar Democrats to the GOP fold.

The same will probably happen this go around.

[Tanniker Smith]

The map is different, and Trump is not Reagan. And Hillary isn't Carter -- she isn't running on a failed presidency of her own.

The question is, whatever percent it would turn out to be, would it be enough to tip Texas or Virginia or North Carolina or somewhere else into Hillary's column.

[Utmost Certainty]

I wish people would just be pragmatic about this, and group up in the same way Dems do.

The choice is pretty binary. Either you actually like America and want to see it prosperous. Or you want to surrender history to the social justice fascists.

There isn’t an alternative to this. None.

[jmaroneps37]

Tip Texas? Really? Virginia will come home via a coal truck and North Carolina will get caught up in the national tide. For all his faults Carter is a prince compared to the felon. He was just an ash hole she is a criminal. It won’t even be close.Trump will crush her.

[Utmost Certainty]

Democrats are a lot more hardline these days and genuinely don’t care about the character of their presidents. It’s all about winning, by any means necessary.

[SunkenCiv]

Crossover blue-collar voters happened then, and will happen in 2016. I do wish the Demwit "reform" were in place (the one where, if a certain number of states implement it, the entire Electoral Vote for each participating state will go to the candidate winning the nationwide, not statewide, popular vote), once that's in, the Demwits will be out of the White House for a long time to come. It's a classic footshooting.