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1 posted on 05/05/2016 2:53:15 PM PDT by Rustybucket
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To: Rustybucket
I have been here long enough to remember the "Broken Glass Republicans" who vowed to crawl on their hands and knees through broken glass to elect a Republican to office.

We now how a sizable contingent of Snowflake Freepers who seek a safe place to lick their wounds and hide from the Big Bad Wolf Donald.

What a pathetic spectacle.

36 posted on 05/05/2016 3:26:33 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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Look at it this way: Many elected Democrats will not come out support Clinton for a while because they live in very liberal districts that support Sanders. Same thing here, just on the other side.


37 posted on 05/05/2016 3:27:01 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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Trump is not Republican!


40 posted on 05/05/2016 3:28:22 PM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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Be patient. Be magnanimous.

A lot of these folks are codependent. A beaten wife will often go full berserker to protect the same husband who put her in the hospital two weeks previous.

Give it to say the eve of the convention. Then it’s time to separate the lambs from the goats.


44 posted on 05/05/2016 3:33:13 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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I agree, there is a grieving period required here. At least for real people. Most of us said we would never vote for Romney. But when we looked back at Obama we really found ourselves arguing for and then backing Romney. We wanted someone else. But he was easily better than the alternative.

But thats only part of the problem. Then there are the Barry Dillers and the WSJ and people like that. These people want to be paid off for their support. On the other side, there are the defense contractors and other government vendors. These people want to buy Trump’s loyalty. These people will come into line sooner or later when they feel that Trump can deal or be dealt with.

Trump does not actually need either group. But he will probably soft talk them to stop them from supporting Hillary. However this is the really nice part about Trump. He does not need their money. It would be nice. But the efficacy of ad money has disappeared. People don’t believe the media and we certainly aren’t watching the political ads.

If Trump were wise he would buy some national ads now. And run them all summer long except during the Olympics. Introduce himself as a candidate. Say what he is fighting against and what he is fighting for. Don’t mention Hillary. Just make sure you mention that you are fighting against politicians who are for sale. Politicians that ask for your vote but care about their own career and not your job. He should win easily.


47 posted on 05/05/2016 3:39:30 PM PDT by poinq
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It’s politics and a hard fought bitter primary. Give it time. Some of the same people that said they would never again support the lesser of evils or RINOs and that we need a 3rd party etc etc — now insist trashed Cruz supporters suck it up and get behind their candidate. I don’t necessarily disagree that that should happen but the hypocrisy is stunning. It will sort itself out one way or another ... or not.


48 posted on 05/05/2016 3:39:43 PM PDT by plain talk
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He will get my vote although I preferred Cruz. I thin, what would the Democrats want me to do? They’d want me to be a NeverTrump. So I will vote for him. Never do what your enemy wants you to do.


55 posted on 05/05/2016 3:50:29 PM PDT by Persevero (NUTS)
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"To NOT do this is tantamount to Treason IMO to the goals of the Republican Party."

Unless it isn't. it may be treason-ous to the voters, but the goals of the Republican Party, of which many here are still (why?) registered members, are it's own preservation. I did not say perservation of it's principles.

What we are seeing in the Republican party is the same behavior of governments and institutions of Man since the beginning of time. This is what men in groups do, have done, will do ... the organization lasts for a time, eventually become corrupted by an excess of moral toxin, and then it dies. As it's dying, those who recognize that it's no longer devoted to preservation of principle but preservation of itself over principle leave. Those who don't leave, resist the death, doubly distracting them from the original principles. They cling more tightly. They are no longer protecting power and wealth, but the pipeline that delivers that power and wealth.

The thing to do is to recognize it for what it is: A different form of the same thing that has been going on since the beginning of man. It probably even happens in groups of other animals at a level appropriate to that species. It is not, ultimately, a moral issue itself. Yes, the morals and ethics are out the door, but the fact that it is happening is no more good or bad than the fact that we are born and we live and we die.

Don't be confused or emotional. This is a reaction to you not having expected this. But it's just like the forest - you don't really know which tree or plant life or animal or insect is going to die next, but always, life is being started and ended all around you. As it ends, there is a clinging that doesn't resemble in any way the life of the tree or animal.

So the universe is just fine - God's world is totally intact. The emotion and the suffering comes because your expectations were of something else.

Adjust your expectations. Expect mankind, especially in groups, to accomplish some good things, but also do serious and much evil, and always eventually to die.

I recommend walking away from the patient and investing in a new life.

The principles never die, but the vehicle for delivering the principle has to either recover or be allowed to die so that a new vehicle can be built, inhabitable by the principles.

It's just a choice - if you believe the party is just sick, then nurture it. If you believe it's dying - diseased beyond recovery - let it die and participate in the way you see fit to build a new vehicle.

What's going on seems big to us because we're in it, it's in front of us, and it affects us and our kids deeply. But that doesn't mean it's unnatural.

Accept it, change it, or leave it. But no need for emotion, drama, suffering ... and certainly not surprise. Mankind is many good things ... I love mankind ... but he is what he is - as Steyn says - history is just a cycle that repeats over and over again - farce followed by farce followed by trajedy. This is just what he is sometimes doing ... unbelievably stupid, treacherous and destructive behavior, with no one acting sanely including the ones who we once called 'the good guys' ... except a few, who, at the time, are called all sorts of nasty names. Usually they are the ones who build the new vehicle.

The Republican party - I guarantee you it's as bad as you suspect, and worse. Whether it's time to let it die - I say it is. I could be wrong.

57 posted on 05/05/2016 3:52:32 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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I am a Cruz supporter who will be voting for Trump in November.

Of the GOP field there were several (Walker, Cruz, Jindal, Gilmore, maybe even Rubio or Kasich) that I would have preferred to Trump. Throw your RINO tomatoes at me now. None of my preferred candidates won. Trump has won. With no opposition in the remaining primaries, he will likely get 1400-1500 votes on the first ballot.

The choice now is between Trump and Clinton.

Anyone voting for a third party candidate is simply throwing away their vote. Refusing to take a stand between two imperfect candidates when the stakes are so great is an act of narcissism and selfishness.

The choice is now between Trump and Clinton. And that choice is plain.

Trump sometimes says mean things, but Clinton has allied herself with people organizations that turn over police cars and throw rocks to keep others from speaking at all.

I don’t like Trumps inconsistency on some issues, but he could walk around with a coin in his pocket and flip it for every decision, and still make the correct decision 50% more often than Clinton.

I don’t for a moment doubt that Trump loves this country. I have very little confidence that Hillary, who served as Secretary of State while taking tens of millions of dollars from foreign dictators, loves this country.

Trump, whatever advantages he started from, increased his fortune through private enterprise. Clinton has made her living for her entire adult life from the public coffers.

Trump, despite his enormous ego, treats his employees well. Clinton, in private, curses the secret service agents and soldiers that serve and protect her.

In a crises, I firmly believe that Trump will stand with Israel. I am highly doubtful that Hillary Clinton, who tried her best to turn Egypt over to the Muslim Brotherhood, can be counted on to support Israel.

Trump at least says he’s against abortion. Hillary wants to make it safe, legal and frequent.

Trump at least says he supports the second ammendment. We know Hillary doesn’t.

Trump at least offers hope of rolling back job killing regulations. Hillary promises that she will destroy coal jobs and the coal industry.

Trump, for all his personal failings, I not a criminal. Hillary is, though though indictments will never come as long as her allies hold the reigns of power.

And Trump, alone of all candidates, hit on two issues that no one else dared to raise: immigration and trade. Both have struck a deep chord with the voting public, that I never would have anticipated. But both may be crucial for the long term preservation of representative government.

Mr. Trump is an imperfect candidate. He has an uphill fight. If he wins, I expect to be disappointed by his decisions sometimes. But he is our only choice now.


63 posted on 05/05/2016 4:08:44 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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You call me misbeliever, cut-throat dog,
And spit upon my Jewish gaberdine,
And all for use of that which is mine own.
Well then, it now appears you need my help:
Go to, then; you come to me, and you say
'Shylock, we would have moneys:' you say so;
You, that did void your rheum upon my beard
And foot me as you spurn a stranger cur
Over your threshold: moneys is your suit
What should I say to you? Should I not say
'Hath a dog money? is it possible
A cur can lend three thousand ducats?' Or
Shall I bend low and in a bondman's key,
With bated breath and whispering humbleness, Say this;
'Fair sir, you spit on me on Wednesday last;
You spurn'd me such a day; another time
You call'd me dog; and for these courtesies
I'll lend you thus much moneys'?




69 posted on 05/05/2016 4:27:25 PM PDT by Agnes Heep ('I sold myself,' said Mr. Bumble ... 'for six teaspoons, a pair of sugar-tongs, and a milk-pot ....')
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Those that were rooting for others than Trump are probably felling let down again. Many of have voted for Dole, Mc Cain, Romney... to support anyone but the demroRats and again we have to vote for someone other than our real choice. Let down again, again, again, again.....
71 posted on 05/05/2016 4:40:04 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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As a Trump supporter, I plead with you all to hold your nose or whatever you need to do, but please support him.

He’s not a perfect conservative but he is very conservative on the most important issues that determine if America lives on, or dies on our watch.

There are stories and interviews going back decades showing his patriotism, support of vets and his desire to see America put first in consideration on foreign policy, trade etc. That is good enough for me.

California golf course flag fight
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-fights-to-keep-large-american-flag-flying-at-his-california-golf-course/

Florida resort flag fight:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/11/02/donald-trump-flag-fight.html
DONALD TRUMP, TRUMP ORGANIZATION CHAIRMAN & CEO: Well, I put up an American flag, John, on the front of the Mar-a-Lago Club, which is a great house, probably the greatest house in America that I turned into a private club very successfully in Palm Beach, Florida. And the flag is very proudly waving, and the town wants me to take it down.

GIBSON: Because?

TRUMP: Because they say I put it up without a permit and, frankly, had I gone to the town for a permit they wouldn’t have given it to me, probably. But more importantly, I say that you don’t need a permit to put up the American flag.


72 posted on 05/05/2016 4:57:13 PM PDT by bigtoona (The media, GOPe, dems, commie Pope, hate Trump. He is the destroyer we've been waiting for!)
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Rush lost me today. I tried Levin to see if he had changed his tune any, and well, nope (you big dope!).

For every anti-Trump screed they went on, I found myself almost constantly yelling at my radio:

SO, YOU THINK HILLARY WILL BE BETTER?????? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING NOW!!!!!

Then, I listened to the Republicans that have come out today (en masse), and the best response we get is "Well, Trump's the nominee, but we're not really gonna get behind him."

Again, I ask: Is Hillary better? Because that's what you're standing for now.

73 posted on 05/05/2016 5:03:11 PM PDT by cincinnati65
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The republican party is a private entity. They are under ZERO obligation to do what republican rank and file desire.


75 posted on 05/05/2016 5:33:05 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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Go Trump, look at the last three numbnuts that were nominated by ‘our side’.
Trump will do fine, as long as he offers up a true and honest contrast to the leftist tyrant that the dems put up.


77 posted on 05/05/2016 6:00:44 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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It is an issue for the party members of each State to determine for their State.

Each State is different, representing different peoples in different States.

It isn’t a Federal election. It is an election of candidates by the State delegates to become the National Republican Party nominee for the Office of President.


81 posted on 05/05/2016 6:48:26 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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Let’s keep those postcards flowing... to Ryan... Every Monday until Ryan and all the others are “ready” to support Trump, or until Ryan makes it clear that he’s flipping the bird to We, The People, and he plans to support Hillary.

It’s not over until Trump is actually the Republican nominee, not just the “presumptive” nominee. Everyone stay focused, and keep voting Trump in the remaining primaries. Keep focused until February 2017.

Postcards to:

Spkr. Paul Ryan
1233 Longworth HOB
Washington, DC 20515

This is what I’m writing on my postcards:

Support Trump2016
- or we vote DEM down-ballot in November!
#MAGA


96 posted on 05/05/2016 9:58:11 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (Wolverines!! #NeverHillary)
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