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What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war?
US Defense Watch ^ | May 2, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 05/02/2016 9:02:11 PM PDT by pboyington

A nation that drafts women and sends them to war is in its death throes.

A nation that drafts women and sends them to war has lost its moral compass.

What kind of nation subjects mothers, daughters, wives and sisters to a military draft where they could be placed in a direct ground combat unit?

It is a nation that is spiritually bankrupt; spent, doomed and with military and civilian leaders who are either uninformed, desperate, cowards or all three.

The naysayers will state that the Soviet Union had women in combat in World War II, particularly as snipers. Yes, they did. The Soviet Union was also in mortal peril as the German Army rolled through the country in the Summer of 1941. On December 2nd, a German reconnaissance battalion reached the village of Khimki, just five miles from Moscow. The Kremlin could be seen in the distance. Then, it started snowing, the temperatures dropped to 35 below zero and Stalin counter-attacked.

Finland utilized women in Anti-Aircraft units during the Winter War in 1939-1940, after the Soviet Union invaded the country. One of those women was my former German professor at Southern Methodist University, Dr. Margareta Deschner.

Women served in direct ground combat units of the IDF during the Six Day War in 1967. The IDF had so many problems with women in direct ground combat organizations that they were pulled out of the units after the war and then used as instructors. In 2000, Israeli social engineers forced women back in the combat arms of the IDF. Today, women make up about 3% of the combat arms and serve in several battalions that are comprised of 75% females. Apparently, problems with women in these units has been covered up by the Israeli government as reported by Arutz Sheva.

On April 27, the United State House of Representatives’ Armed Services Committee voted to back an amendment that would require women to register with the Selective Service within 30 days of turning 18 years of age, as all men must currently do.

This means that if Congress ever brings back the draft, women will be forcibly sent to war and possibly be assigned to combat arms units, aka the infantry, armor, armored cavalry, artillery.

The amendment is a response to the Pentagon’s decision to allow women to serve in combat. Supporters of drafting women point out that the ban on women in combat was the reason the Supreme Court upheld a male-only draft. Therefore, they argue, it is only logical to now force women to register for Selective Service.

The U.S. House at large will vote on the Act in May 2016, which was approved by the committee 60-2 on April 28.

Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D., CA) supported the policy change: “I actually think if we want equality in this country, if we want women to be treated precisely like men are treated and that they should not be discriminated against, we should be willing to support a universal conscription.”

Except for a few crusaders, such as Congressman Duncan Hunter, a Marine Corps vet, who served in Iraq, Congress is largely supportive of the idea of drafting women.

In all honesty, Congress doesn’t really care or understand the issue; why should they? Most of Congress has never served a day in uniform.

The Joint Chiefs don’t care. They traded their souls for benefits and defense contractor jobs years ago. When the Army Chief of Staff, a Green Beret, tells the world we need to draft women, you know the end is near.

I will say it as plain as day; the senior leadership of the United States Military is the biggest collection of sycophants and moral cowards that this nation has ever placed in the Pentagon or the War Department or in a tent, 240 years ago with General Washington.

The American people don’t care. Why should they? Most Americans have never served a day in uniform and have no clue about what is happening. Most Americans have the attention span of a fruit fly and are focused on how many “Likes” they’re getting on Facebook. Most Americans think serving your country is tantamount to standing at attention with a bucket of KFC while the National Anthem is belted out by Carrie Underwood before the Daytona 500.

Furthermore, American men aren’t exactly swaggering images of John Wayne these days. They’re none too happy to send their women to war, and that speaks volumes about the decrepit state of the nation.

Why would the United States ever need to draft women, when the country has millions and millions of men to call up, should a national security emergency arise?

Unfortunately, real war is nothing like the allusions presented by Hollywood, which showcase some pint size, anorexic female cop beating the daylights out of six gang bangers on the streets of LA: or Demi Moore pretending that she’s made it through NAVY SEAL training, aka BUD/s, aka Hell on Earth: or some Game of Thrones chick wielding a 100 pound sword with the aplomb of Ivanhoe as she lays waste to hordes of marauding men.

It’s all a make believe land and now the fantasy of women in direct combat ground units and special ops is going to be played out for real.

The delusion will continue unabated to the moment the first rounds go down range in the next war. When the body bags of young American girls are stacked like cord wood, maybe the people will finally awaken.

The supporters that want to draft women are feminists and left wing loonies who will be conveniently out of danger when the women they sent to war are shot, shredded and blown up like cardboard pop up targets.

The US Military is quickly heading for a Goetterdammerung, a Downfall of the Gods, aka total destruction as with Nazi Germany in 1945. Social engineering and moral cowardice is dooming us to obliteration. We are going to smile and lie and rationalize are way to the charnel house.

The only thing that can stop the imminent destruction of the US Military is a President Trump or Cruz. If Hillary wins, start learning Russian or Chinese and brush up on your Farci.

If women don’t have the physical strength to participate in the NFL, why are we sending them to ground combat units, where physical strength and endurance are the basic tenets of survival in war?

The answer is simple: the NFL runs on a profit motive. The military has no profit incentives and is therefore the new playground of the cultural Marxists.

What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war? Take a look around and you’ll have a pretty good idea.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: draft; feminism; jointchiefs; womenincombat
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To: PapaBear3625

“Women who get pregnant on active duty should be dismissed with a less-than-honorable discharge, and be ineligible for any military benefits.”

They should get such a discharge, but they won’t. However, that isn’t entirely my point.

I believe unit cohesion relies on high retention and a high level of combat readiness. If you have a company that is 50/50 male female, it is unrealistic to believe that will happen. If half of the women get pregnant you are at a measly 75% combat readiness at any given time. That is assuming that the majority of the 50% women were draftees who never really wanted to be there in the first place.


41 posted on 05/03/2016 5:41:38 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: PapaBear3625

Horsehockey. You know as well as I do that women are totally useless in combat yet every time we have an article concerning women in the service, we have the faint-hearted “men” who quail at being drafted themselves pushing it for women.

I am heartily sick of the cowardly males we have in our country. They are only too happy to let ladies serve in their place.

See? I did read that guy’s comment correctly.


42 posted on 05/03/2016 5:43:03 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: pboyington
What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war?

This one: Israeli Female Soldiers

ML/NJ

43 posted on 05/03/2016 5:45:21 AM PDT by ml/nj (av)
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To: VanDeKoik

Just keeping hiding behind your skirts and you’ll be safe enough.

Unlike the movies, combat requires killing and being killed. Man’s work, always has been. Women have supported their families and their nation by doing those actions necessary to support the combatants and done those actions well. Plenty of support well worth being considered fully franchised citizens.

You, however were hiding somewhere when the men were called to fight, right? Should we take your right to vote away?


44 posted on 05/03/2016 5:51:18 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

“Just keeping hiding behind your skirts and you’ll be safe enough.”

So when are you going to actually address my point?

Because all you are doing is posting a string of cliched mangina cheese trying to make you out to be some tough dude when the only thing you are proclaiming is how much of a state slave to women you are willing to be.

Now AGAIN, are you willing to advocate for women to relinquish the vote so that MEN that are sent off to fight have the decision to shape the government that has the power to do so, or are you cool with 50% of the population having no responsibilities but an equal right to send YOU to go die?

A simple YES or NO will work since you keep going off on a tangent.

Just because that person has two breasts and a vagina does not mean they are special magical beings.

There are plenty of stories of guys overseas that came home to a cleaned-out house and divorce papers (and dont get me started on your average millennial female), so dont give me this yarn about how these are all a bunch of fair medians keeping the home fires burning.

This isnt 1860.


45 posted on 05/03/2016 6:03:08 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

To address your point, women and men and even those halfway in between, such as yourself, are full citizens and therefore should and do have the right to vote.

I served in combat, 17 months worth and another seven months in a hospital recovering. We were somewhat less than a few percent of all the available males - so, what - the rest of you shouldn’t be able to vote because all of you stayed home and left the rest of us to fight?

Women serve at home just as ably as all of those non-serving males, like you.


46 posted on 05/03/2016 6:11:41 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail
Horsehockey. You know as well as I do that women are totally useless in combat

Yep. I totally agree with you. That's why I think women should not be in the military at all.

How many women do you think would want to enter, or remain in, the military, if being in the military carried with it the likelihood of being assigned to a combat zone?

47 posted on 05/03/2016 6:17:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Chainmail

So, Mr. Mangina, that would be:

No. I’m happy with them having the right to vote with none of the responsibilities.

We are talking about the draft here. You know, where you don’t have a choice? If I’m subjected to it, then I have the right to construct the government via my vote since it is the one that has the legal right to send me. If women aren’t subjected to it, then they have no business voting in the matters of state PERIOD.

I don’t care if you crossed the Delaware with Gen. Washington. The moment you talk like some half-assed male feminist, you have my permission to stop lecturing. Like what is your point? They aren’t fit for national service, but they are perfectly fit to vote for people to send you to do it?

“but they change diapers, that means they are part of the fight!!”

Thanks, I really value THAT philosophy.


48 posted on 05/03/2016 6:22:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Wow! You’re a real piece of work aren’t you?

Hopefully someone’s around you to keep you away from sharp objects.


49 posted on 05/03/2016 6:39:56 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

“Wow! You’re a real piece of work aren’t you?”

No. I just made you start thinking with your big head.

You will thank me later.


50 posted on 05/03/2016 6:42:32 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

No, you actually made me glad you weren’t in uniform and armed. People like you are a hazard in all directions.


51 posted on 05/03/2016 7:12:55 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: pboyington

This nation doesn’t draft anyone. It hasn’t for decades now so the title implication (”What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war?”) that we’re pulling 18-19-20 year old women out of their sophomore year of college to go fight in Iraq and Afghanistan against their will is completely disingenuous.


52 posted on 05/03/2016 7:25:59 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: pboyington

Excellent article and 100% correct. We better pray that Trump is elected as I expect him to kill this idea soon after being elected. Also, every military leader who supports drafting women and women in combat units needs to be purged post haste.


53 posted on 05/03/2016 7:26:15 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Chainmail

Try to ignore VanDeKoik. He would probably be fine if his daughter had to sign up for the Selective Service like men. He’s 100% dumbass.


54 posted on 05/03/2016 7:33:11 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Chainmail

Yeah.

That is just another one of your goofy swipes that you’ve been pushing to hide the weakness of your argument.

Now stop acting like some white night for the ladies and actually think about what I said, because you haven’t even tried to discount any of it.

Deep down you know I’m right.


55 posted on 05/03/2016 7:41:44 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: trebb

“Yep - and a lot of supposed conservative here on FR were saying we needed to do it to “teach the activists a lesson or be fair”.”

To remind lefties that voting democrat has consequences that can directly affect them in a negative way. I had to prove I had registered for the Draft a couple of times to maintain my clearance and my job. I had to update Selective Service with change-of-address information until they finally told me to stop because I was too old.


56 posted on 05/03/2016 7:44:28 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: ohioman

“Try to ignore VanDeKoik. He would probably be fine if his daughter had to sign up for the Selective Service like men. He’s 100% dumbass.”

So yet another one of these simps that are too chicken $hit to address the glaring problem of women having the right to vote, but none of the responsibilities.

If she wants to vote, then she should have a stake in the game, not the power to send the boy next door off while she gets to stay comfy at home.

Apparently you guys can’t answer that and need to tell each other to run off to your safe space, where such “problematic” questions dont need to be answered.

The only 100% dumbasses are the pretend tough dudes that are just thirsty for the first chance to “impress” some girl with how willing they are to take a bullet for them.


57 posted on 05/03/2016 7:47:25 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Your inane posts on this matter are really not worth getting worked up over. I am confident in the intelligence of most on FR who are dead set against having their daughters sign up for the Draft. Or as my AF Vet father use to say, there’s always a turd in the punchbowl.


58 posted on 05/03/2016 8:21:56 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

“Your inane posts on this matter are really not worth getting worked up over.”

Because you have no answer. It isnt hard.

That is why you’ve done nothing but give a bunch of blowhard replies that amount to “I dont wanna answer”, and then make goofy appeals to faux masculinity hoping that most people on FR dont actually know how to think on their own and just grunt “must protect boobs and vaginas, because me man”.

The only thing you are dead set against is confronting females on the contradiction of having the ability to vote to shape the government to send the other 50% off to protect them.

When you grow a pair to finally address this, then get back to me.


59 posted on 05/03/2016 8:31:41 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: ohioman; VanDeKoik

Yeah, I sort of figured that part out. Given his weird and frankly sexually-dysfunctional statements, my gaydar went off on his first few comments.

His Mom needs to put a stronger lock on his basement door.


60 posted on 05/03/2016 8:33:16 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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