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What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war?
US Defense Watch ^ | May 2, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 05/02/2016 9:02:11 PM PDT by pboyington

A nation that drafts women and sends them to war is in its death throes.

A nation that drafts women and sends them to war has lost its moral compass.

What kind of nation subjects mothers, daughters, wives and sisters to a military draft where they could be placed in a direct ground combat unit?

It is a nation that is spiritually bankrupt; spent, doomed and with military and civilian leaders who are either uninformed, desperate, cowards or all three.

The naysayers will state that the Soviet Union had women in combat in World War II, particularly as snipers. Yes, they did. The Soviet Union was also in mortal peril as the German Army rolled through the country in the Summer of 1941. On December 2nd, a German reconnaissance battalion reached the village of Khimki, just five miles from Moscow. The Kremlin could be seen in the distance. Then, it started snowing, the temperatures dropped to 35 below zero and Stalin counter-attacked.

Finland utilized women in Anti-Aircraft units during the Winter War in 1939-1940, after the Soviet Union invaded the country. One of those women was my former German professor at Southern Methodist University, Dr. Margareta Deschner.

Women served in direct ground combat units of the IDF during the Six Day War in 1967. The IDF had so many problems with women in direct ground combat organizations that they were pulled out of the units after the war and then used as instructors. In 2000, Israeli social engineers forced women back in the combat arms of the IDF. Today, women make up about 3% of the combat arms and serve in several battalions that are comprised of 75% females. Apparently, problems with women in these units has been covered up by the Israeli government as reported by Arutz Sheva.

On April 27, the United State House of Representatives’ Armed Services Committee voted to back an amendment that would require women to register with the Selective Service within 30 days of turning 18 years of age, as all men must currently do.

This means that if Congress ever brings back the draft, women will be forcibly sent to war and possibly be assigned to combat arms units, aka the infantry, armor, armored cavalry, artillery.

The amendment is a response to the Pentagon’s decision to allow women to serve in combat. Supporters of drafting women point out that the ban on women in combat was the reason the Supreme Court upheld a male-only draft. Therefore, they argue, it is only logical to now force women to register for Selective Service.

The U.S. House at large will vote on the Act in May 2016, which was approved by the committee 60-2 on April 28.

Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D., CA) supported the policy change: “I actually think if we want equality in this country, if we want women to be treated precisely like men are treated and that they should not be discriminated against, we should be willing to support a universal conscription.”

Except for a few crusaders, such as Congressman Duncan Hunter, a Marine Corps vet, who served in Iraq, Congress is largely supportive of the idea of drafting women.

In all honesty, Congress doesn’t really care or understand the issue; why should they? Most of Congress has never served a day in uniform.

The Joint Chiefs don’t care. They traded their souls for benefits and defense contractor jobs years ago. When the Army Chief of Staff, a Green Beret, tells the world we need to draft women, you know the end is near.

I will say it as plain as day; the senior leadership of the United States Military is the biggest collection of sycophants and moral cowards that this nation has ever placed in the Pentagon or the War Department or in a tent, 240 years ago with General Washington.

The American people don’t care. Why should they? Most Americans have never served a day in uniform and have no clue about what is happening. Most Americans have the attention span of a fruit fly and are focused on how many “Likes” they’re getting on Facebook. Most Americans think serving your country is tantamount to standing at attention with a bucket of KFC while the National Anthem is belted out by Carrie Underwood before the Daytona 500.

Furthermore, American men aren’t exactly swaggering images of John Wayne these days. They’re none too happy to send their women to war, and that speaks volumes about the decrepit state of the nation.

Why would the United States ever need to draft women, when the country has millions and millions of men to call up, should a national security emergency arise?

Unfortunately, real war is nothing like the allusions presented by Hollywood, which showcase some pint size, anorexic female cop beating the daylights out of six gang bangers on the streets of LA: or Demi Moore pretending that she’s made it through NAVY SEAL training, aka BUD/s, aka Hell on Earth: or some Game of Thrones chick wielding a 100 pound sword with the aplomb of Ivanhoe as she lays waste to hordes of marauding men.

It’s all a make believe land and now the fantasy of women in direct combat ground units and special ops is going to be played out for real.

The delusion will continue unabated to the moment the first rounds go down range in the next war. When the body bags of young American girls are stacked like cord wood, maybe the people will finally awaken.

The supporters that want to draft women are feminists and left wing loonies who will be conveniently out of danger when the women they sent to war are shot, shredded and blown up like cardboard pop up targets.

The US Military is quickly heading for a Goetterdammerung, a Downfall of the Gods, aka total destruction as with Nazi Germany in 1945. Social engineering and moral cowardice is dooming us to obliteration. We are going to smile and lie and rationalize are way to the charnel house.

The only thing that can stop the imminent destruction of the US Military is a President Trump or Cruz. If Hillary wins, start learning Russian or Chinese and brush up on your Farci.

If women don’t have the physical strength to participate in the NFL, why are we sending them to ground combat units, where physical strength and endurance are the basic tenets of survival in war?

The answer is simple: the NFL runs on a profit motive. The military has no profit incentives and is therefore the new playground of the cultural Marxists.

What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war? Take a look around and you’ll have a pretty good idea.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: draft; feminism; jointchiefs; womenincombat
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To: rdcbn

Some of the most gorgeous female soldiers instruct you in hand to hand IDF combat called “Krav-Maga” or Battle Contact.


21 posted on 05/03/2016 3:34:29 AM PDT by Netz
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To: pboyington
I went to an Air Force Staff NCO Academy graduation dinner back in the '80s and a pretty young lady AF Sergeant sitting across from me was wearing a Bronze Star on her dress uniform. I asked her what she did to earn it and she said brightly that she had "supported the effort in Grenada". I asked what she did and she apparently did a great job facilitating supply movement from the Washington DC area during that horrendous conflict.

*Sigh*

22 posted on 05/03/2016 3:52:10 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: VanDeKoik
"Like why the hell should a female have the rewards and none of the responsibilities?"

Well, congratulations - we have another gutless twit advocating women for the draft. Pretty clear you never served in combat or you would have figured out how dumb an idea that is.

More proof that the men of this nation have swung to the pansy side of life. The good news is that now all of you can use both bathrooms at Target.

23 posted on 05/03/2016 3:56:45 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: pboyington

“What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war?”

Is this a trick question? A country that has no other use for them...


24 posted on 05/03/2016 4:05:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: pboyington

When the body bags are piled high enough this rubbish will cease.


25 posted on 05/03/2016 4:06:08 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Chainmail

I’ve been “working like a goose” for years now since my company started promoting female tokens; nobody can say anything when you work the minimum hours because they’re throwing more money and titles at tokens who work even less.

One positive aspect of this: People who actually have the knowledge and do the real work will always have a job. Tokens are interchangeable...


26 posted on 05/03/2016 4:07:49 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They will discover they do not want it.


As with a lot of the leftist agenda they think they want.


27 posted on 05/03/2016 4:08:32 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Chainmail

No we have a gutless twit that is too cowardly to address what I said. Lets try this again:

“Like why the hell should a female have the rewards and none of the responsibilities?”

Now, Mr. mainly man, are you willing to advocate for women to cede the vote so that some airhead doesn’t have the ability to vote to send you to die so she can spend all day deciding what pair of shoes to go with her new dress?

Or are you simps still thinking taking a bullet for a girl back home makes you oh so much more sexy to them?

Show some real stones and tell your apparent goddesses to pick either being all in or keeping their hands off the machine of state.


28 posted on 05/03/2016 5:00:28 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: pboyington

A nation that has chosen not to reproduce itself.


29 posted on 05/03/2016 5:09:12 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("We like us the way we are. That makes us real, true friends." ~ The Undead Thread)
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To: pboyington
Yep - and a lot of supposed conservative here on FR were saying we needed to do it to "teach the activists a lesson or be fair".

We are turning our backs on God and all that is moral and decent and some good people are getting sucked in to the Left's constant barrage of propaganda.

30 posted on 05/03/2016 5:11:03 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: pboyington

I have served with women in the Navy.

My first problem is their strength. Almost none of them can carry a man if they need to get them out of a flooding space or one that is on fire. I found myself having to even carrying mop buckets for them down ladders. I can imagine the same would happen on a battlefield.

My second problem with women in the Navy is that more than half of them got pregnant during their time and a seemingly at a higher rate a couple of months before deployment. I would bet good money that if there was a draft this would happen too on a much larger scale.

I am not trying to demonize them or say that they are cowards. If men can get pregnant I would surmise many of them would do it to, to avoid combat.


31 posted on 05/03/2016 5:11:25 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: pboyington
If women want to play with the men, then they need to play by the same rules.

Some decades ago, somebody filed a suit that went all the way up to the Supreme Court, saying that it was discriminatory for men to be drafted, but not women. The Supremes declared that, since women are not accepted into combat roles, then it was OK to draft just men. That reasoning, thanks to Obama's rule changes, no longer applies. Oops.

Either the Army, Navy, etc return to being men-only organizations (with women going back to being in separate organizations, like the WACs, WAVEs, etc), or women get drafted, and are enrolled under the exact same basis as men (including having no choice as to whether they get assigned a job that can get them killed). Choose one.

32 posted on 05/03/2016 5:18:15 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: kearnyirish2

It’s one of the great fallacies of modern liberalism that equality means equivalency. Men and women aren’t the same (except maybe in San Francisco) and putting women positions that they aren’t suitable for is fatally stupid. There a a million jobs men are lousy at that women do best- but combat is not something women (or weak men) can do, period.

I had the miserable experience of working under a female general once. She was intelligent enough but zero idea what being a Marine was. She basically just filled the chair and wasted time while the rest of the command worked around her decisions and her interminable meetings and worthless acronyms. My favorite incident with her was when our command was holding a Physical Fitness Test (sit-ups, pull-ups, and a three mile run) on a very rainy day and we have just completed the pull-ups and sit-ups when our general shows up in her staff car, aide, and she’s wearing her Summer Service C uniform. She lectured us on “putting our utmost into our PFT” while the aide held an umbrella over her. We just looked at each other and when she left, ran our run.

Any real general would heave run the PFT with us. She went on to wreck things at the 3-star level.


33 posted on 05/03/2016 5:18:22 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: rdcbn

In Israel, it makes sense to give women combat training. If the Muslims get past the men, the women become the last line of defense for the kids. Still, women in Israel do NOT participate in combat.


34 posted on 05/03/2016 5:21:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Chainmail
Well, congratulations - we have another gutless twit advocating women for the draft. Pretty clear you never served in combat or you would have figured out how dumb an idea that is.

Read what he actually wrote. If women don't have to take on male responsibilities (like combat), then women should not be eligible for male rights and benefits. They should not be in the military, should not be eligible for military benefits, and should not have a say in whether we go to war.

The feminists claim that only women should have a say in matters concerning women's bodies. That means that only men should have a say in whether men's bodies are put "in harm's way".

35 posted on 05/03/2016 5:26:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Tax-chick
A nation that has chosen not to reproduce itself.

Guess what? We're already not reproducing ourselves. Instead of getting married in their early 20's, like they used to, women are choosing to spend their prime reproductive years working on a career, and chasing "bad boys".

Maybe we can "draft" young women into being moms.

36 posted on 05/03/2016 5:29:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: castlegreyskull
I am not trying to demonize them or say that they are cowards. If men can get pregnant I would surmise many of them would do it to, to avoid combat.

Men who deliberately make themselves unfit for combat (like, for example, shooting themselves in the leg) get court-martialed.

Women who get pregnant on active duty should be dismissed with a less-than-honorable discharge, and be ineligible for any military benefits.

37 posted on 05/03/2016 5:32:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625; Mrs. Don-o
We're already not reproducing ourselves.

That was my point.

As a society, "we" have decided upon extinction. Fornication, sodomy, contraception, and abortion are the mechanisms.

From this, many phenomena follow, including (but not limited to) the concept of drafting women into combat.

38 posted on 05/03/2016 5:33:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("We like us the way we are. That makes us real, true friends." ~ The Undead Thread)
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To: Tax-chick
From this, many phenomena follow, including (but not limited to) the concept of drafting women into combat.

I agree with you. My point is that, if women are not to be eligible for drafting into combat, they should also not be eligible for the military, nor for military benefits.

Bring back separate organizations like WACs, WAVEs, etc.

39 posted on 05/03/2016 5:38:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: pboyington

No civilization or Nation will survive that sends its women to fight its battles while its men stay home.


40 posted on 05/03/2016 5:41:13 AM PDT by sport
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