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1 posted on 03/29/2016 9:18:50 PM PDT by pboyington
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2 posted on 03/29/2016 9:22:33 PM PDT by doc1019 (Cruz)
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I may only be a 4 year cold war infantry vet but to this article I say a hearty HOOAH.


3 posted on 03/29/2016 9:28:04 PM PDT by Finatic (Sometimes I think it would be nice to just get it on and get it over with. Once and for all.)
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strong article.


4 posted on 03/29/2016 9:32:03 PM PDT by dp0622
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One point the author forgot: how many male lives will be lost saving the women in trouble?

More important, a civilized society fights FOR its women, not ALONGSIDE them.


5 posted on 03/29/2016 9:38:56 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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liberal war on women.

All in the name of equality

7 posted on 03/29/2016 9:44:22 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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Here are some more questions Carter and Mabus and Fanning and Obama have certainly never asked themselves:

How is a five foot two, 95 pound woman supposed to kill a six foot two inch, 200 pound Jihadi in hand to hand combat?

How is a woman supposed to carry the heavy loads of 70 pounds or more an infantry soldier carries into war?

How is a woman supposed to lift a 155mm artillery shell that weighs 100 pounds?

How is a woman supposed to pass BUD/s, US Navy SEAL training?

Just look to our present society, our current culture for all the answers

As local police, firefights jurisdictions have to abide to Federal Justice Department dictates...

Businesses, colleges abide by these same dictates since the 1970's...

Lower the standards, dumb down the requirements...everybody gets a trophy.

12 posted on 03/29/2016 9:58:17 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (Was addicted to the Hokey Pokey...but I turned myself around...((@))
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no hygenic facilities. There is always the mortar shell tube to squirt in when youre pinned down in a ditch filthy and with dysentery.

Horah.


13 posted on 03/29/2016 10:11:44 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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I am going to add this to the references I have for the below letter I will send annually to Congress about this issue.

LETTER SENT TO MY COGRESSMAN AND ALL SENATORS (December 2015)
The Tragedy of Women in Combat

Ash Carter’s announcement December of 2015 demonstrated the Obama’s Administration attachment to a political ideology fueled by arrogance and premeditated ignorance. Any long period of study and vigorous debate has been among those mutually supportive creatures that have metastasized throughout the military to serve a social agenda bringing future needless devastation. Most of the points I highlight about women in combat arose first when the decision was made to do away with DADT. A lot of good men are going to have to die in years to come to cover up this disaster.

This tragedy of women in combat provides another reason I now always council men to never enter the armed forces. Social engineering that amalgamates feminist ideals everywhere has now become the over arching imperative to which all operational capabilities must submit.

However, combat operations too often demand unpredictably and unimaginably exhausting brutality to achieve victory. Therefore, only the highest physical abilities and most severe restrictions on human emotions and behaviors can foster the required high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion required.

Human sexuality simply cannot intrude into this sub-culture where only those displaying the greatest savagery and endurance can hope to win. Resorting to war for national defense entails the ultimate Olympics of conflict occurring at the bleeding edge of existence where the unbelievable must become possible. In this meritocracy there is much less excuse for merging men and women into these struggles than exists for the athletic competitions held every four years.

Combat forms personnel into small, rigid, task oriented units. They then can descend into a squalid cacophony of shrieking, sobbing, crashing dissonance to orchestrate the killing of other humans without hate or joy. These people continuously face extraordinary stress and survive by acquiring the wisdom of wild animals that live in the moment without schedules for eating and sleeping.. At the point of collision, they undertake operations requiring sacrificial, primitive and intimate actions. They must display a noble fidelity in spite of environments that are inherently chaotic, barbaric, and brittle. This alternate reality can be overcome only by trained killers subject to a totalitarian leadership and narrow focus unimaginable for those who see any opportunity for the social alchemy popular in civilian life.

The regimental combat teams for infantry, mechanized and armored units are now the playthings of bureaucrats committed to equal opportunity and affirmative action. They are dismissive of warriors enduring the brutal carnage imperative for triumph. Institutional memories no longer exist for fighting ferocious, shrewd enemies such as the Germans, Japanese, Chinese, and North Vietnamese, who utilized a full array of modern weapons. If one notes the ribbons on any senior officer’s uniform, they show they fought only Arabs the Israelis beat three times at 20 to 1 odds. Such people now question the necessity for high standards which do not obfuscate or allow inferior female performance.

Women not only do not belong at the pointy end of the spear, but should not be holding it to the extent they intrude into the fellowship of combat arms which depends upon savagery for victory. As this tragedy unfolds I will remember the quote that, “Men sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf”.

All Combat Roles Now Open to Women, Pentagon Says
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pentagon-nbc-news-all-combat-roles-now-openomen-n473581?cid=eml_nbn_20151203

The Greatest Lie Ever Told - Female Rangers
http://usdefensewatch.com/2015/12/the-greatest-lie-ever-told-female-rangers/
Why Marines, unlike Army and Navy, are so against women in combat
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2015/0911/Why-Marines-unlike-Army-and-Navy-are-so-against-women-in-combat?cmpid=editorpicks&google_editors_picks=true
General Martin E. Dempsey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Dempsey
Gen. Dempsey: If Women Can’t Meet Military Standard, Pentagon Will Ask ‘Does It Really Have to Be That High?’
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gen-dempsey-if-women-can-t-meet-military-standard-pentagon-will-ask-does-it-really-have
Coed Combat Units - A bad idea on all counts
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/coed-combat-units_697822.html
You’re In the New Army Now
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/01/youre-in-new-army-now.html
Marine Corps boot camp, job titles to be gender neutral by April
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2016/01/06/marine-corps-boot-camp-job-titles-gender-neutral-april/78351756/
Be sure to check out the photo of Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus. He looks to me like someone who should be holding personnel seminars at Health and Human Services. I would not want to have anything to do with the gooey product resulting from the fulfillment of his vision. I think it is time to retire the service dress blues for a mauve uniform with a pink stripe and fashionable French berets. Considering the defense secretary claimed a long period of study and vigorous debate, I maintain discussion was among those mutually supportive creatures that have metastasized throughout the military to serve the LGBT and feminist social agendas. Most of the points I highlight below about women in combat first arose when the decision was imposed to do away with DADT. A lot of good men are going to have to die in years to come to cover up this needless disaster.
The Great Social Experiment Takes the Field - In the War of 2020
http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/02/the-great-social-experiment-takes-the-field-in-the-war-of-2020/
See also: Re: Fiorina: Marine Corp leaders should decide on jobs open to women
The Day the US Military Died
http://usdefensewatch.com/2016/03/the-day-the-us-military-died/

16 posted on 03/29/2016 10:49:10 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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Those responsible are those who wear the uniform right now. In an attempt to protect their livelihoods, they have forgotten the almighty words of Douglas MacArthur…

They are the same highest military who **KNOW** that Obama posted fake birth documents, uses a fake social security number, fails e-verify, and wrote on the jacket of his own biography that he was born in Kenya

These are the same highest military who never peacefully and legally requested the courts or Congress to investigate Obama's eligibility to be Commander in Chief. These are the people who betrayed the honorable and dedicated men and women serving under them.

These are the same highest military who betrayed their troops, their nation, and their sacred oath before God to defend the Constitution! They did this in exchange for a pension, perks, and a paycheck.

If in the highly unlikely occasion that I should be in their presence I will turn my back on them .

19 posted on 03/29/2016 11:20:34 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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The biggest problem will be during the boring down time. That’s when mixing young men and women together will kill unit cohesion.


21 posted on 03/30/2016 12:26:52 AM PDT by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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The Navy SEAL running for Congress, who happens to be transgender

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/11/politics/transgender-navy-seal-congress-kristin-beck-outside-with-insiders/

22 posted on 03/30/2016 2:16:28 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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I am going to repost some comments on the general subject from another thread from last Fall:

Comments from my niece’s boyfriend on the women Rangers and the convenient loss of their training records a week or so ago. Applies here too.

He was a Marine 240 gunner, spent time in Afghanistan, this guy is serious business, we probably wish he’d gone to SEAL school, he’d have had a much better than average shot at it. Here’s his commentary on the Ranger school records debacle:

“Oh trust me, I’m aware. S*** makes my blood boil. I’m not even phased by the fact that they’re deliberately hiding the records of the females’ performance. I can only imagine how heavily that course was catered to the females, not to mention the fact that they probably outranked the entire instructor cadre.

We had a female interpreter in afghan, she was at the Company COP so I never saw her. She ended up having an affair with our Co 1st Sgt (surprise).

We also worked with the Brits for a while, since they had a patrol base not far from my squads pb. They also happened to bring in a female interpreter...pregnant in under 2 months, and sent home. Probably got an award for it.

Even if there were females that could meet the minimum physical requirements for the infantry, that s*** will never work. It’ll be detrimental to the combat effectiveness of whatever unit they end up in. Let’s not forget the American “victim” mentality as of late. I can’t even fathom how many sexual harassment cases that would be filed. Then the rape accusations, pregnancies, relationships affecting roles and promotions, oh and the fact that no woman on the planet could firemans carry my 240lb a** with 100+lbs of gear out of a kill zone.

Rant over.

< next email, a few minutes later>

Ok I lied, rant wasn’t finished.

At the schoolhouse I taught at, we brought in non infantry units (POGs) and put them through several infantry centric courses. We had a strict standard of training and had no issues failing females or Marines that outranked us as instructors. This brought us some attention from higher ups on one occasion. A female warrant officer brought pizza for all 50 of “her” marines in our course. During their final exercise. We stopped her and reminded her of the fact that no outside food was permitted in our course. She returned with, “The four females I have in the class are going to feel sexually harassed by you if you don’t let them eat this pizza”.


24 posted on 03/30/2016 4:42:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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The article assumes women will be in direct combat. Less than 10% of our military is involved in combat. There are non-combat jobs even in Special Ops. Back in the 80s I taught shipboard firefighting, most of the women had no problem, those who couldn’t make the cut were dropped along with those who couldn’t pass the other courses.


25 posted on 03/30/2016 4:43:09 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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As the country focuses on the Trump/Cruz Twitter Wars, the US military burns.

The candidates are silent on this issue, too.

Hey Donnie, Hey Ted, Hey John ... what say you? (not even bothering to ask the Felon and the Communist ...)

28 posted on 03/30/2016 6:14:27 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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