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Hydrogen, hydrogen everywhere...
market-robots.com ^ | 20 March 2015 Last updated at 10:21 ET | Matthew Wall

Posted on 03/21/2015 5:36:00 PM PDT by ckilmer

 

20 March 2015 Last updated at 10:21 ET

Hydrogen, hydrogen everywhere...

 

Earth's oceans from space Hydrogen is most commonly found in water - H2O - and in fossil fuels

 

Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. And when you burn it or use it to produce electricity, the only waste product is water.

In the era of global warming, it would seem to be the perfect fuel.

So why aren't we all driving round in hydrogen-powered cars, moving our goods in hydrogen-powered lorries, and heating our homes and offices with this wonder element?

In short, fossil fuels got there first.

Oil, coal and gas were easily accessible and powered the industrial revolution. Around them, entire economies and transport infrastructures were built.

It was only much later that we realised the potentially catastrophic effects hydrocarbon waste products could have on the environment.

"In the Seventies, the oil crisis made people realise that oil-based economies were vulnerable, so people started to get excited about the potential for the hydrogen economy," says Alex Hart, hydrogen expert at the Carbon Trust.

"But then climate change saw a push towards electricity as the answer to hydrocarbons and hydrogen seemed like a distraction."

Now hydrogen is staging something of a comeback.

Fuel cell tech

Hydrogen fuel cells have been around for decades, but they have always been heavy and expensive.

Hydrogen fuel cell car America's first street-ready hydrogen fuel cell car took to the road in 1998
Toyota Mirai at hydrogen filling station Toyota's Mirai hydrogen fuel cell car will cost about €66,000 (£47,000)
Toyota Mirai engine Fuel cells are now smaller, cheaper and more efficient

Now Japanese car manufacturers in particular, like Honda, Toyota and Nissan, as well as Korea's Hyundai, believe they have finally made the fuel cell commercially viable and much more efficient.

Toyota's Mirai fuel cell electric vehicle (FCEV), for example, is being rolled out in the US, Japan, Denmark, Germany and the UK this year.

With a range of about 300-400 miles (480-640km) and a tank that can be filled in a matter of minutes, Toyota is hoping FCEVs can give conventional electric vehicles (EVs) a run for their money.

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How does a hydrogen fuel cell work?

Hydrogen fuel cell in car engine

A fuel cell is composed of an anode, a cathode and an electrolyte membrane. Hydrogen is passed through the anode and oxygen through the cathode. At the anode, the hydrogen molecules are split into electrons and protons.

The protons pass through the electrolyte membrane, while the electrons are driven through a circuit, generating an electric current and heat. At the cathode, the protons, electrons and oxygen combine to produce water molecules.

Fuel cells are clean - the only by-products are electricity, heat and water - and they are quiet, because they have no moving parts.

The proton exchange membrane fuel cell is currently the most suitable for vehicles because it can operate at lower temperatures than other fuel cells, but it is not the most efficient.

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"In Japan we have a three-year waiting list for the car - demand is outstripping supply," says Toyota's Nik Pearson.

Earlier this year, Toyota announced that it would share nearly 6,000 of its hydrogen fuel cell patents in a bid to boost FCEV development.

The patent portfolio covers fuel cell stacks, high-pressure hydrogen tanks, software control systems and the industrial processes involved in generating and supplying the gas.

Pump priming

But will all the other manufacturers develop FCEVs - and consumers buy them - without a filling station network already in place?

"There are already 100 hydrogen stations in California," says Mr Pearson, "and in the UK the government has given £11m of backing for a small network of 15 stations in the South East."

This is still small beer compared to the hundreds of thousands of petrol and diesel stations worldwide.

Hydrogen filling station Hydrogen cars can be refuelled in a matter of minutes, whereas electric battery vehicles take hours to recharge

"The technology of HFCEV has come on in leaps and bounds," says Dr Hamish Nichol, innovation manager for hydrogen at industrial gases giant BOC, part of the Linde Group. "But you need the infrastructure to fuel those cars - it's a chicken and egg situation.

"We're a commercial business - we're not going to build a hydrogen network just for the good of mankind. So we're going to need subsidy from the government."

 

Industrial gases companies, energy companies, vehicle manufacturers and governments are beginning to realise that they have to work together to build the infrastructure, otherwise each stakeholder will be waiting for the other to make the first move.

For example, in Germany just such a consortium - H2 Mobility - is building 100 hydrogen stations over the next two years, with a target of 400 by 2023. The project will cost about €350m (£250m).

And in the north-east of the US, Air Liquide is co-operating with Toyota to build 12 filling stations as a way of boosting interest in hydrogen cars.

But building a comprehensive network will cost billions, experts believe.

Grey or green?

Hydrogen may be a fuel with water as the only waste product, but producing it - most commonly by "cracking" hydrocarbons such as methane - uses a lot of energy and creates greenhouse gases as by-products.

"One of the reasons for using hydrogen is to reduce the carbon footprint, so splitting methane leaves you with the problem of what to do with the CO2 produced," says Dr Nichol.

Hybrid power station This German power station can produce electricity, heat and hydrogen from renewable energy sources

This industrially produced "grey hydrogen" currently accounts for about 95% of total production, says Pierre-Etienne Franc, head of advanced business and technology for Air Liquide, another big industrial gases company.

Far more eco-friendly is hydrogen produced through electrolysis - splitting water into its constituent hydrogen and oxygen molecules - particularly if the electricity used has come from renewable sources, such as wind and solar.

This is the ideal zero-carbon solution.

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Graphic of hydrogen

Hydrogen facts

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Another big advantage of electrolysis is that it allows hydrogen to be produced on site, cutting out distribution costs.

Denmark already has five hydrogen filling stations with embedded electrolysers, and Aberdeen City Council recently opened the UK's largest hydrogen production and bus refuelling station, owned and operated by BOC.

Hydrogen bus Aberdeen is now home to Europe's largest hydrogen bus fleet

The station will fuel 10 hydrogen fuel cell buses.

"But [electrolysis] is about 10 times more expensive than industrial production," admits Mr Franc.

These costs could come down if night-time wind power electricity were used to produce hydrogen when domestic demand is at its lowest, he argues. Oil companies like Shell are currently exploring this option.

Hydrogen future?

So are we well on the road to a fully-fledged hydrogen economy, weaned off our dependence on damaging hydrocarbons?

Possibly, but most industry experts believe that road will be a long one.

"It's going to take a long time because you're completely changing the paradigm - the infrastructure, the regulations - everything," says Mr Franc. "We're on a journey, but we can't go too fast."

The Carbon Trust's Alex Hart is similarly cautious: "Vehicles will definitely be fuelled differently in future, but whether by hydrogen, electricity or biofuel is less clear. We just don't know what the dominant technology will be.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: agitprop; alternativeenergy; fuelcellcar; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hydrogen; hydrogenfuel; rampantstupidity; unitedkingdom
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To: CedarDave

Yep, that was a liquid oxygen stir that caused the problem. You would have different issues with a land-based fuel cell.


41 posted on 03/21/2015 6:23:07 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Ouderkirk

that joke is a little too overused.


42 posted on 03/21/2015 6:23:48 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: stormhill
unlike amateurs and dreamers who can operate on the higher plane of fantasy

you forgot to include unicorn farts....LOL But you're right. Hydrogen may have possibilities, but it is not going to be free. The energy to convert it from other compounds has to come from somewhere (fossil fuels or nuclear). The percentage of free hydrogen in the atmosphere is 0.000055% so that is not exactly a legitimate source

43 posted on 03/21/2015 6:24:01 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: SunkenCiv

I prefer a clue
x 4 with the rusty nail modification for such beatings.


44 posted on 03/21/2015 6:24:33 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: kosciusko51

Bingo! When the government regulates the most plentiful element, we will have a shortage.


45 posted on 03/21/2015 6:26:07 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Ouderkirk

Its simple enough to separate hydrogen from oxygen in water and its a common 6th grade science experiment. The problem for cars is that it takes a lot of energy to do it at the rates a car would need it on demand.


46 posted on 03/21/2015 6:28:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Ouderkirk
This is all very funny but I have a serious question.

If hydrogen is called a fuel, why can't electricity also be thought of as a fuel? Seems a subtle concept but it's key to avoid falling into the trap of trying to violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

47 posted on 03/21/2015 6:29:35 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Engineers know that to get hydrogen it takes more energy to recover it from a compound than the energy obtained from recombining it with oxygen. Unlike carbon-stabilized hydrogen in fossil fuels, hydrogen is not found floating around in the free state.


48 posted on 03/21/2015 6:31:20 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: stormhill

Simple answer: Hydrogen (H) is an element, and H2 and hydrocarbons are molecules; electricity is neither.


49 posted on 03/21/2015 6:34:11 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51
See post 48.

Further, a battery carries electricy to power a system thereby behaving as a fuel source.

50 posted on 03/21/2015 6:41:08 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: ckilmer
Do you enjoy sitting on your pair of 10,000 psi, three-layer, carbon-reinforced plastic hydrogen storage tanks? "What? Me worry?"


51 posted on 03/21/2015 6:43:46 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: imardmd1

No, batteries act as an energy source for an electrical system. Fuel cells require the oxidation of a fuel source (hydrogen or hydrocarbons) to generate electricity.

Yes, I am familiar with the issues of extracting and storing hydrogen.


52 posted on 03/21/2015 6:47:46 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Jonty30
my brother almost blew up my parent's basement making hydrogen by putting aluminum turnings in a glass beaker of hydrochloric acid which was being heated over a bunsen burner. hydrogen gas leaked out of the glass tube coming out of the rubber stopper in the beaker catching fire resulting in a lot boom, singing my brother’s eyebrows and his friend's eye lashes. so, how anyone could suggest that the Hindenburg’s fate had nothing to do with its hydrogen flammability, i do not understand? aren't today's dirrigibles filled with helium rather than hydrogen? if so, what is the reason for not continuing to use hydrogen in airships?
53 posted on 03/21/2015 7:00:24 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: jmacusa

Carbon monoxide has almost the same energy density as hydrogen, so were is the fuss about the dangers of carbon monoxide ?

Yes, carbon monoxide is also a combustible.

Humans produce hydrogen as a digestion byproduct every day.

Hydrogen is actually safer in a vehicle than gasoline or LNG, or propane since hydrogen disapates much faster than all of those other fules and does not cling or rather stay on the ground pooling.

There is much hype about what happen to the Hindenburg which is not true.
It was the very flamable paints that they used on the out side of the Hindenburg that caused the initial flames.

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54 posted on 03/21/2015 7:01:26 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipe like Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Non-engineers know that hydrogen is the way to go.”

Because public schools have been turnng out total idiots for 40+ years!!!


55 posted on 03/21/2015 7:03:52 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: ckilmer

Bump!


56 posted on 03/21/2015 7:06:06 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Prejudice and generalizations. That's how Collectivists roll......)
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To: jmacusa
A "hydrogen bomb" isn't made with hydrogen. It is made with tritium, a very rare form of hydrogen whose nucleus has not only a proton, but also two neutrons. It is radioactive and has a half-life of 4500 days, such that a bomb made with it is not forever. In fact, most of our radioactive waste is from having to remake these bombs. Contrary to popular notions, radioactive waste friom commercial plants is far less than the waste coming from making hydrogen bombs. Furthermore, this problem is aggravated by the fact that the triggers for the bombs only work about 30% otf the time, so we have to make three times as many bombs as we might intend to be detonated.

Hating other inhabitants of this planet is a very costly passion.

57 posted on 03/21/2015 7:07:44 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: kosciusko51

I agree. Hydrogen has its place. Fossil fuels, however, are so energy-dense and so much more readily available in consumable form that hydrogen cannot take their place.


58 posted on 03/21/2015 7:10:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: KarlInOhio

Most people think that when they think of hydrogen production they think of electrolists.
However ? There is a much easier way and cheaper way to produce hydrogen from steam in a process called Gasification.
Check out a website called All Power Labs.
Much of the infrastructure for the production of hydrogen can be created from gascifiers and biomass.
A electric generator, or Internal Combustion Engines can be ran off of a gasifier.
During WWII most of the Scandinavian countries used gascifiers to run their cars, trucks, busses.


59 posted on 03/21/2015 7:11:54 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipe like Project : build it already Congress !)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep. Energy density is the key. That is the reason that alternate energy sources will have a hard time displacing the internal combustion engine.


60 posted on 03/21/2015 7:13:26 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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