Posted on 03/01/2015 11:07:23 AM PST by lifeofgrace
Anna Marie Cox posed a useful question when she compared her faith to President Obamas, who has been roundly criticized by conservatives such as my friend Erick Erickson, who wrote that Barack Obama is not a Christian in any meaningful way. Cox asked if Obamas not Christian, what does that make me?
She announced her Christian faith to the world by writing My understanding of Christianity is that it doesnt require me to prove my faith to anyone on this plane of existence.
Shes right. You could stop reading hereif you are not a Christian, maybe thats the limit of your interest in the subjectbut faith is merely one aspect of Christianity. Defending your faith is therefore far more than a mere profession, just as God is far more than a totem you rub to obtain salvation.
But how did Cox even arrive at such a question? On the surface, she isnt even a very likely candidate to call herself a Christian, never mind coming out publicly.
Cox should be a poster child for secular humanism. Her journalism career is studded with liberal curricula like the devils snuff-box (Lycoperdon perlatum for biology enthusiasts). A frequent contributor for The Rachel Maddow Show, Washington correspondent for the defunct Air America, Time blogger and contributor for anti-conservative The Guardian, Cox clawed her way up the food chain in the progressive ecosystem.
Unlike celebrities who were brought up Christian (Katy Perry and Brad Pitt, for example), Cox was raised by her mother, an angry, agnostic ex-Baptist, and her father, who she describes as a casual atheist. (A casual atheist is the most genuine in non-belief. Atheists who rail and rant against God are really theists who hate the God they pretend not to believe in. Coxs description of her fathers nonchalant dismissal of God because He doesnt exist is the mark of a true unbeliever).
Cox doesnt go into the details of her faith journey; nonetheless, I take her at her word. She wrote,
Me, Im going all in with Jesus. Its not just that the payoff could be tremendous, it already has been! The only cost is the judgment that comes from others, from telling people that my belief has a specific shape, with its own human legacy of both shame and triumph.Amen!
Yet while throwing her lot in with Jesus, Cox admits not being particularly knowledgeable about her Savior.
What about Bible literacy? Mine is mostly limited to dimly remembered excerpts from the Old Testament we read in my college humanities class and a daily verse email. I read spiritual meditations, but the Word is still a second language I speak less than fluently.Does this mean shes not a Christian? No, but in a meaningful way, following Jesus does have specific, predictable results. Christianity results in discipleship. Discipleship is based on devotion to God, study of Gods Word, and Christian actionliving in holiness, and exhibiting the values of a life in Christ.
Cox wrote that she was hesitant to publicly declare her faith because she feels intimidated by a conservative culture that seems intent on creating boundaries around Christianity rather than open doors.
Sadly, its lamentable that some Christiansespecially American conservativesapply their own standards to other peoples faith, while many times ignoring their own standards. There are, in fact, clear boundaries around Christianityprecise standards by which anyones devotion to faith can be judged (yes, judged). One Bible passage oft-quoted by those opposed to any kind of boundaries in Christianity is Matthew 7 verses 1 through 5:
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brothers eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, Let me remove the speck from your eye; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye.Heres the lie in not judging at all: with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. If believers do not judge at all, if no standard at all is applied to Christianity other than a confession of faith, then they themselves wont be judged? Certainly not!
Jesus didnt say that we should never remove the speck from our brothers eye, only that we should first work out our own salvation, and deal with our own problems according to the standard (boundaries) of Christianity before we can help others.
The standard of Christianity is Christ. The standard of doing Gods will is Christ. The standard of sinlessness is Christ, and the standard of judgment is Christ. And Christ will judge.
Jesus continues in Matthew 7, verses 13 and 14:
Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.That doesnt sound like a no-judgment Christianity. Verses 15 through 20 continues:
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. [bold mine]A prophet declares the Word and the will of God. A false prophet falsely declares their own words instead of the Word of God. Anyone who declares the boundaries of Christianity without properly interpreting the Word of God is a false prophet. And every work proceeding from their teaching is bad fruit.
Finally, Jesus concludes with this in verses 21 through 23:
Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!Theres a standard for knowing Jesus beyond a simple profession of faith: he who does the will of My Father in heaven. In case you think that standard is subject to ones interpretation, the Apostle John confirmed it in 1 John:
Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, I know Him, and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.The Apostle Peter confirmed it again, and the supremacy of the Word of God (the Bible) in knowing Gods will (2 Peter 1:19-21):
And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.It is not enough to say I am going all in with Jesus, you have to do His will and become a disciple. Jesus Himself said this in Matthew 28:18-20:
And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen.Christians call this the Great Commission, and its more than going on mission trips to indigenous people in faraway lands. The Great Commission is a commitment to discipleship. Before one can make disciples, one first must become a disciple.
Discipleship is based on three simple principles: living the Christian life, studying Gods Word, and acting in Christian community. What Cox refers to as the public performance of Christianity is deeply tied to the private work of discipleship. All of Coxs arguments that President Obamas faith should be taken at his word fail the test of discipleship (the argument about Ronald Reagan skipping church is valid, although Reagan was a faithful disciple, studying Gods Word and living a pious life).
President Obamas mangling of Scripture is evidence of his lack of discipleship, just as much as it would be if Cox committed a similar slaughter. Cox wrote, I have so much studying to do I may never catch up. Thats correct. None of us will ever catch up. Thats the whole point, really.
We study to know God better, so we can be better disciples. The apostle Paul wrote in 2 Timothy chapter 2, verse 15: Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. The heart of a disciple is diligence, discipline, and study. Scripture-mangling is a sign of indolence. We all publicly display our ignorance at times, but its our duty as Christians to study and receive correction in order to progress in our knowledge of God.
President Obama has given no sign that his knowledge of God, his belief in Scripture, or his devotion to a Christian ideal has progressed in any way since he took office. In fact, Obamas speech at the National Prayer Breakfast last month was so shocking that it drew invective from even those non-political advocates of the faith like Ravi Zacharias, who wrote I cannot recall when I have heard such inappropriate words at so important an occasion, in such a time of crisis.
Cox correctly makes a point that there is nothing so great I can do to make God love me more. Gods grace extends beyond all of our faults, yet it doesnt include those who walk in their own way and not strive for the narrow gate. We must try to live according to Gods will in order for grace to have effect. Graces purpose is to turn us toward God in repentance, not to give a pass for our lives as we want to live them.
I love that Cox wrote this:
Yet any rumbling desire to turn my religion into something fashionably rebellious is an artifact of ego. Its an attempt to make this story about me, someone who did something and then changed, ta-da cue workout montage and triumphant final scene. On some level, I still want credit for the spiritual makeover I was lost, but now am found, and I am the one that found me.This is a sign that she gets itthat God is really working in her life. There really is nothing wrong with a liberal following Christ, andcontrary to many conservative egosChrist does not reserve His favor only for Americans, or Republicans.But if I understand Gods grace correctly, the miracle of redemption is that I was found all along. God does not see charming dissonance in being a liberal who follows Christ; Hes not looking for that New York Times Style section trend story. I do not get to think of myself as edgy for being just another believer. There is nothing to reconcile.
But there is another side.
God is not a respecter of persons; everyone is responsible for their own discipleship. Being a liberal believer doesnt absolve them of their due diligence in studying Gods Word, living Gods truths, and fellowshipping with Gods people. If its too distasteful to go to church with Bible-believing conservatives, or too edgy to read the Bible for the sake of reading it, whos putting the boundaries on Christianity?
Liberals who find Christ must be careful not to open every door of inclusion to Gods kingdom except those who disagree with their politics just as conservatives must take care not to close those doors.
Im happy that Cox shared her heart. I pray that God, the author and finisher of her faith, brings her to perfection as a trophy of His grace.
To answer her question, if Obamas not Christian, what does that make me?: Obama is not a Christian in any meaningful way, and that makes Anna Marie Cox a Christianimperfect, falling short, yet seeking the heart of her Lordin a very meaningful way. I gladly call her my sister in the faith.
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They can call themselves a Christian.
And I can call myself the Rightful Heir to the English Throne, it don’t make it so.
I don’t see how.
Never. These phony pukes are only “Christian” based on their perverse interpretation of the Bible or whatever suits them.
You can’t make a judgement because the holier than thou will then judge you.
Yes a liberal can be a Christian.
Barack Obama sees Jesus as a historical figure.
Barack Obama has said that Jesus is not the only way, he doesn’t accept that those of other faiths face damnation.
Barack Obama says that sin is whatever goes against his values.
Barack lied to church going black Christians when he said that he personally opposed same sex marriage, that marriage was something special between a man and a woman with ‘God in the mix’. David Axelrod spilled the beans.
Barack has a lot of praise for the prophet of Islam (who denied the divinity of Jesus, denied His death by crucifixion and resurrection) and the ‘holy’ koran. I never hear Barack refer to the Holy Bible.
Barack uses Jesus to admonish taxpayers that they are their brother’s keeper yet Barack ignores his own brother in poverty.
There is no charity in being forced under penalty of law to tithe to the government welfare state.
I question that Barack meets any understood common usage of the term Christian.
My understanding of Christianity is that it doesnt require me to prove my faith to anyone on this plane of existence.
She does not understand Christianity and she is not a Christian. See post five.
I stopped at the very beginning. There is no liberality in the Gospel. God does not operate in a democracy. His word is absolute. You have a choice. Nobody is forcing you to follow. If you do accept Christ into your heart, follow the scripture to the letter.
No worshipping of abortion, homosexual perversion, etc.
You're either with Jesus or against Him.
Sure they can be a Christian ... just like the Bible says in Romans!
Romans 10 ...
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach):
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
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Being a Christian doesn’t mean that you know it all, get everything right, or are right about even other things in the Bible (I know a lot of Christians wrong there) ... but a person is a Christian on the basis of what the Bible says ...
As I said in my post # 37, in the earlier thread on Ana Marie Cox, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3262886/posts
She is just now emerging and is apparently a new and young Christian. She needs time and encouragement to grow in her faith and understanding. To condemn her now, is to squash the budding Christian, that is not what Jesus instructed us to do.
Regarding “liberal” it depends upon one’s definition of the word and that is based upon the era one is thinking of. Today’s liberals do not believe as those who called themselves by that name 100 or 200 years ago.
Sounds like another Kirsten Powers.
Can a Liberal be a Christian? No - not and stay that way.
Can a foreigner be President?....Oh, wait
Can a Liberal Be Christian?
The requirements of being a Christian, aren’t hard. Recognizing you are a sinner is a big part. Wanting to change and repenting are others. Accepting Christ as your savior is key.
So yes, Liberals, like we other sinners, can be Christians. But first they need to want to be.
Overall? Pretty unlikely.
Oldplayer
The fact of the matter is that one can very well support homosexuality and/or abortion and be a Christian. A Christian can be wrong about a whole lot of things, and as long as they’re right about the following ... they are saved!
Romans 10 ...
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach):
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
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I know a number of Christians who are wrong about Bible doctrine, don’t know it or are wrong about other things ... but ... I also know that they do accept Jesus, the Messiah of Israel as their personal savior, just as the Bible says.
They may never get it all right, this side of going to be with Jesus ... but when they get there, they’ll have it all right!
The Word of God says no.
Sure, a liberal, even a very Progressive liberal, can be a “Christian”. All they have to do is dress up neatly every Sunday, attend services, place a generous contribution in the plate when it passes, and even get up and partake of the Communion and other rituals.
But like the Current Occupant, they never have to hear or take note of what the pastor or other congregation members may be saying. In their minds, they are engaged in what the Islamic world calls “taqiya”, to use the Shi’ite Arabic word, a form of religious dissimulation, or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts, especially while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution.
Now, Progressives, in fact most liberals, DO have a de facto religion, the Religion of Man, or secular humanism, which was given widespread infamy during the French Revolution, based on Voltaire’s espousal of the concept. Nominally a Catholic, openly an atheist, and yet, somewhere, wanting a supreme being into whom he could place his faith, but failing that, Voltaire evolved the doctrine of the supremacy of Reason, a sort of non-divine god-like power, but one which keeps out of the way of determined men.
And the fosters of the French Revolution were nothing if not determined men.
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