Good thing he didn’t call them cotton pickersPosted on 11/21/2014 7:15:15 AM PST by NOBO2012
I’m still not sure what, in possibly the most over-hyped speech of the century, El Presidente promised. He told illegals they can come forward, get fingerprinted, “get right with the law” and stay here “temporarily.” I didn’t hear him say exactly how that’s going to work; I didn’t hear him say he was giving illegal immigrants social security numbers, photo IDs and work permits – as was repeatedly leaked out before the speech.
In fact, this is really all he actually said about illegal aliens:
So we’re going to offer the following deal: If you’ve been in America for more than five years; if you have children who are American citizens or legal residents; if you register, pass a criminal background check, and you’re willing to pay your fair share of taxes – you’ll be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily, without fear of deportation. You can come out of the shadows and get right with the law.
Although he called Latinos “fruit pickers” and “maids” -
Are we a nation that tolerates the hypocrisy of a system where workers who pick our fruit and make our beds never have a chance to get right with the law?
Good thing he didn’t call them cotton pickers
- he did say they can step forward and start paying taxes, if they choose. And who wouldn’t choose to pay their fair share? I don’t know how they are going to do that without a Social Security number however. And, as I said, I didn’t hear Big Guy say they could get one. Probably because he knows he can’t issue SS#’s to illegal aliens without super-Constitutional powers. So I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this works. Also, I didn’t hear Big Guy explain how his position “evolved” from believing he was not allowed to act unconstitutionally to believing that he could; so possibly that one is still circulating around Justice for a plausible explanation. Instead, I heard him invoke scripture and the ghosts of previous Presidential Executive Orders to justify his new belief in doing the job that Congress refuses to do.
We may have to wait on a final clarifying position from Justice on that evolution as well.
Butt lets be clear; last night’s speech was pretty much a nothing burger served up with lots of soothing gravy from the amnesty standpoint. Big Guy didn’t really do anything he hasn’t already done. A de facto non-deportation policy already exists; so he expanded it “officially” to include more people - which he was going to do anyway. No, my friends, the real point of his speech was to make sure everyone, especially the Republicans, knows that he, el Presidente, is still relevant.
He put the loyal opposition on notice that he’s still in charge, and not to mess with him. Some might even call it taunting:
“You want to oppose my agenda? Go out there and win an election!”
“You don’t like what I’ve done?”
“I have one answer: Pass a bill. I want to work with both parties to pass a more permanent legislative solution.”
And here’s the money quote from last night:
Meanwhile, don’t let a disagreement over a single issue be a deal breaker on every issue. That’s not how our democracy works, and Congress certainly shouldn’t shut down our government again just because we disagree on this.
Because, you see, this really wasn’t about immigration; even if Big Guy doesn’t know his legal limitations, his teleprompter does. He stretched his presidential powers as far as he could without breaking them. He’ll only do that when he’s convinced the do-nothing Congress won’t do things his way. To that end, last night’s address was intended as a threat; he was blackmailing - or in BO’s case, half-blackmailing® - the new Congress:
Last night’s real message? More like this:
“Don’t mess with me. Don’t mess with Obamacare. ‘Cuz if you do, no matter what you try to defund with your stupid budget bills, I’ll veto it and make sure the American people blame it on you (with the full faith and credit of the MSM behind me). Got it? Nothing is changing around here. I’m still in charge. Just because 2/3 of the country stayed home and didn’t vote doesn’t mean you won. My policies are still in place and my authority has been validated.
In charge of everything, responsible for nothing.
So let’s all take a breath and wait to see how this plays out. Is it now legal for employers to hire illegal aliens because they’ve been temporarily removed from the deportation lists? Can they continue to use stolen SS#’s? Has BHO decided not to prosecute illegal aliens currently working with stolen ID’s? Is he going to issue new Social Security numbers to illegal aliens who’ve been removed from the deportation list “temporarily”? Inquiring minds want to know. Are we going full amnesty, or stickin’ with the nuthin’ burger until the do-nothing Congress either does things Barry’s way or forces him to go full court anti-Constitution?
As el Presidente himself said last night:
“Now here’s the thing: we expect people who live in this country to play by the rules.”
It still remains to be seen if that expectation applies to Barry.
Which Barry will show up? Place your bets at window 6.
Posted from: Michelle Obama’s Mirror
Obola dumped the biggest load of crap since King Kong.
Come forward and be fingerprinted??? one problem:
The following is an article that’s been circulating the internet for a while. Pay it forward . . .
You have two families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal.” Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California . . .
Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash “under the table”.
Ready? Now pay attention . . .
Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000 per week, or $52,000 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.
Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600 per week, or $31,200 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600 per month, or $7,200 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500 per month for food, or $6,000 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200 per month, or $14,400 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.
Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500 per month, or $6,000 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.
Joe Legal pays $200 per month, or $2,400 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.
Jose Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and still has $31,200.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same elementary school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal’s children go home.
Now, when they reach college age, Joe Legal’s kids may not get into a state school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for state schools through his taxes, while Jose Illegal’s kids “go to the head of the class” because they are a minority.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
You get the picture?
A wish sandwich.
That’s where you take two pieces of bread, put them together, and WISH you had some meat.
Well with Caliph Baraq, we know it won’t be a pork tenderloin....
Beautiful. This is getting shared. Thanks.
This guy doesn't see the irony?
What a sicko.
Correctamundo! There's no "there" there.
No benefit for the illegals.
No illegal action on the Zero's part.
Nothing for the GOP Congress to act against.
Are the actual Executive Orders he signs today going to be just as ephemeral?
Let's wait and see...
It was a bluff.
The Republicans need to just ignore what Obama said...and make his life a living hell for the next two years.
Don't approve a single nomination by Obama. Cut off funding to everything the Liberals hold near and dear...without shutting down the Government. Shove a bare bones budget at the White House and let Obama deal with signing it or not.
The ONLY part I *LOVED* about what I heard about Odumbo’s speech was the “fingerprinting” part...
That probably put a huge damper on everyone who was listening in Meh-hee-co
Just heard someone on Fox talking about this - said a lot will make the decision NOT to come forward .... don’t want to have to pay taxes, etc.
Another speech blaming republicans for his incompetence and Harry Reid’s senate roadblock.
I am sure he didn’t go over all the fine print.
It will allow for POS like Mark Zuckerburg at Facebook to legally hire them.
A lot of restaurants will hire them instead of the work release prisoners.
I would imagine they will be able to take a lot of jobs in construction and custodial jobs. Some big companies — especially those with government contracts — wouldn’t hire them before but will now. Defense contractors will be able to hire them now.
They can stay and they can take jobs. This will hurt a lot of people in those type jobs.
That is my take as well. He is taking Grubers advice, found some “stupid” people who will foolishly believe he is “helping” them out, then they will find out he lied to them like the rest of us. Pretty soon he won’t have any friends left.
there is no benefit to them to come out of the shadows.
The EMPTY SUIT has had his bluff called. Obama is filled with hot air!
Come January, the new Republican Congress can pass STAND-ALONE strong BORDER SECURITY bills. This will force ‘RATS (and possibly some RINOs) to cast votes and get on the record. It will also force KING Obama to sign them or VETO them and show his hand. There may well be sufficient votes to overcome many vetoes since many ‘RATS will fear future election results.
Now if only Boehner and McConnell have the necessary courage and don’t sell out to their Chamber of Commerce type of donors.
Safest bet you'll ever make. The 'enrollment' numbers will make obamacare look like a spectacular success.
Actually, I was listening to Hew Hewitt last night who is a constitutional attorney and he said that employers now had a huge liability if they hired these illegals. Hewitt calls them “obamagrants” which is a play on words for immigrant except the type that Obama gives amnesty to.
The liability lies in the fact that the employer would knowingly have hired someone who has violated federal law since the obamagrant would have to present some kind of document showing that he is one of the 5 million obaamagrats.
If the obamagrant then injures someone while working for the employer the employer’s case would make him almost certain to lose by virtue of the fact that the employer knowingly hired someone who violated federal law. Hewitt pointed out that employer’s knowing that they are looking at hiring an obamagrant would pass on hiring him and hire other prospective employees without the stigma of having violated federal law and the potential for automatically losing a liability lawsuit!
I’ll admit to not being an expert in the area but I believe most will go ahead and hire them. It might matter is cases where security clearance is of concern but I don’t believe it would at most chicken processing plants, restaurants, construction sites, etc.
Again, I am certainly not an expert in this area.
New at Barry-King: The Executive $**+ Sandwich
When these obamagrants realize that they have been offered nothing and that they have to pay fees for nothing I doubt many will step up.
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