Posted on 10/12/2014 1:10:33 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Last week, the Supreme Court declined to hear several Appeals Court cases on gay marriages, which resulted in bans on gay marriage being struck down in numerous states across the country.
Following the Supreme Court's decision to punt on the issue of gay marriage, Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd saw this as a sign that social conservatism was declining and obnoxiously asked "it is time for conservatives to surrender in the culture wars?"
After playing a pre-packaged segment on the evolution of social conservatism in the United States, the NBC host did his best to portray social conservatives as being on the losing side of public opinion:
The stuff has moved whether it's on abortion, whether it's on gay marriage, whether it's on marijuana legalization. The culture wars have shifted to the left. Many Republicans are trying to acknowledge that general public shift. And yet it's going to cause some heartburn. ...
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Did you see Fox News go after Tony Perkins on “gay marriage”? I just saw the clip (I refuse to watch ANY of that “news entertainment” drivel). Obviously the Corporation Overlords got the word out and the gay “marriage” is good for business.
Should we give up on the culture wars? Well, of course not. Are we losing them? Big time. Why? It’s good for business and that’s all that matters in our Republic anymore.
No disagreement on the vileness.
However, they have succeeded in generating a very real change in American opinion, however they did it. We need to recognize the change is real, not just a perception created by the media.
You presume that that is what they would, or would want to do. It isn’t. They only SAY they are on our side to get us to the polls.
One of the great lies is that the GOP stands for values. They don’t. And they won’t. (yeah I know there are individual exceptions) but they have NO interest in doing what you suggest. That was made clear by Bush where it was all lip service.
And why won’t they do that? It’s not good for business.
Abortion is a tricky one for both sides of the issue. Polls repeatedly show that a majority of Americans support legal abortion. Polls also show that a majority of Americans support some restrictions on abortion. Both sides use these polls as evidence that they are winning.
Yes, there have been some small victories lately but an abortion is still available in all 50 states to any woman who wants one. This is unlikely to change anytime soon.
That strategy has been tried since Reagan was in office and has failed, getting us to the place we're at now. All Democrat appointments to the courts are liberal ideologues, but we never know what we're getting with a Republican appointee. For every Scalia and Thomas put on the court, we get a Souter and Kennedy.
For all the conservative complaints about the courts, I've never heard any real solutions to this problem.
Sure. Dont deny that the shift. But most of it is based on fear. Basically like taming a poll in Iraq if they approve of ISIS. How many you think will “approve” only to keep breathing versus truly approve?
Why do you think the polls have shifted so fast? When culture issues like abortion remain steady over the years. Because of the viscous tactics. Look at the CEO of Mozzilla. Disgraceful.
The gay mafia is like Isis. They are cultural terrorists.
See Mark Levin's call for an Article 5 convention and his proposed Liberty Amendments.
The Culture war has to be won through the culture, not in the courts and not in politics. Ultimately courts and the law simply reflect the culture.
Winning the culture war requires paying more attention to what is happening in public education, from elementary school to graduate university programs.
Then pay attention to media and entertainment.
That’s where the battle has been lost.
So true, and I think the vast majority of conservatives would agree...but I haven't heard a single credible idea about how to change the schools and media. We know need to change the culture, but have no clue how to do it.
And it’s not just that. Think about what this past Monday’s ruling involved. It was comprised of THREE huge issues that the GOP used to FORCEFULLY decry about... “judicial activism,” “states rights,” and “family values,” all wrapped up together in one of the most egregious and noxious examples witnessed in our lifetimes. But where were the GOP leaders coming out, strongly and vocally protesting this? Other than maybe Cruz, Jindal, and Huckabee, making a few statements. That was about it. Unbelievable.
Issues like these were the very reason people like me, my friends, and family became such stalwart Republicans in the first place. Yet, now we all see the GOP running like scalded dogs, and embracing the same big-government and the same moral-rot as the loathesome Dems. There is absolutely ZERO reason for most of us to ever even bother voting Republican again, when they share the same values and the same ideology as the Dems.
They overlap because it’s largely the same group/class of people.
Artists go where the patron dollars went in those days, and the people who had the money to patronage art were the same people in the the intellectual elite circles. Remember in those days going to college was the path of the elite and wealthy. College was not job training, it was finishing schools for high society young men who could then be “cultured and learned”.
You start by de-funding public education, including student loans which is just government subsidy funding the university system.
“You start by de-funding public education, including student loans which is just government subsidy funding the university system.”
Yeah. Like that’s going to happen.
We should not cave. We should clean up the courts AND put people with courage at the head of the party.
It has to be done through a disruptive model to the current educational system, basically make education so cheap that you no longer need the current public education system to provide it.
It’s something I’m actually currently working on.
Culture War? I think if there is going to be a “war”, the conservatives will win.
I think by the first of the year, things will be in such crappy shape the issues that upset folks today will seem insignificant.
“It has to be done through a disruptive model to the current educational system, basically make education so cheap that you no longer need the current public education system to provide it.
It’s something I’m actually currently working on.”
Good luck.
It’s going to be difficult to make it cheaper than free.
Which is how most people see it.
The Truth never never changes. It never moves.
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