Posted on 09/06/2014 7:41:36 AM PDT by lbryce
Original Title: Queen humiliates President Obama at Buckingham Palace by refusing toast - May 24 2011p> First of all, I asked the Moderator if I could repost this story because...
First of all, I had never heard bout this story or seen the video and assume neither did many others who would probably would love to see it as well, Secondly, this occurred in 2011 when Obama's political status was nowhere near the utter abject failure he is now and would be very interesting knowing what we know now to see him at his diplomatic worst. Thirdly,the person who posted the video newsreeldemocracy, is as left wing liberal as you can get and he goes into a diatribe against the Queen, England, how Obama was a victim of the tricks of monarchic protocol and he never got the butt-kicking he deserved which I administered without any pain killers posted below that I wanted to share with the community.
newsreeldemocracy One of the tricks of monarchic protocol is to make it obscure enough to catch guests and make them feel lesser beings. That's the idea of monachy! Make everybody else feel lesser beings!
This is also about cross-cultures. Two persons were expecting diffrent things from the same event (check http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052MGKBY).
The Queen gives a cold shoulder to President Obama for breaking protocol offering a toast to Herself while they are playing HER SONG: 'God Save the Queen', of course.
Buckingham Palace entrapped the President by allowing the band to start early but the Queen should not have ignored a sincere offer of a toast by the US president, after all she's the copyright owner of the track.
An insult to all Americans. The Queen allowed Obama to suffer in silence his personal opprobrium. No way to treat a guest.
In the case of the Queen and other lesser royals when you have nothing to do all day pomp, protocol and etiquette becomes the only activity they care about.
So when somebody doesn't follow the 'rule' (their rule) they go cold not knowing what to do. The last time they did something trivial and intuitive was when they were born.
In the case of Obama he probably thought the music was a addition to the great words he was uttering. Like in a Hollywood movie. it was his Oscar bid.
In short, they were both thinking a lot about themselves at the time.
Americans should stay clear of Monarchy. It is stupid to pander to it for votes in America. Americas should feel proud of their history. After all, weren't the 'French-speaking French' that took American's side during Independence?
The best of America is that we are not a bunch of elitist royals obsessed with 'etiquette' - so a few privileged rulers can be separated from the many underprivileged.
A great Queen would've acted swiftly and toasted. A sad moment for democracy. As usual.
The BBC and many networks including US ones at first did not make any mention of the gaffe in their main news programmes. Some did menion it but did not show the president's face after the snub. ====================================================== Some other commenter
When any country's national anthem is performed all stand quietly observing respect of that country. Mr. Obama shows his ignorance, arrogance, and rudeness to these formal matters through his pride while displaying his incredible lack of etiquette. After his improperly timed "toast", the Queen firmly orders him to "Stand." and he complies unhappily. After the anthem ends, and with eloquence, she politely raises her glass in recognition to his toast. Mr. Obama's formal protocol and etiquette lacks glitter, shine, substance, and all that a King/President needs to be a wise ruler of any country and kingdom. The arrogance he displays is sad really. Hold on to JESUS for HE truly is our only way, truth, and life. =========================================================================================================== newsreeldemocracy;Your comments are way off base. Your gaping lack of knowledge is probably the result of the liberal mental creep that is destroying your brain. You don't seem to be an informed, individual aware of the facts regarding the relationship between The US and Great Britain and the circumstances in which Obama managed to anger. antagonize the entire diplomatic staff in Great Britain, the Prime Minister and the Royal family all in one fell swoop before you launched your propaganda campaign. America's closest, best ally is Great Britain, has been for the longest time. Generally, when a new president arrive in office he will begin meeting, heads of state such as he did upon meeting Prime Minister Brown.Obama, the Kenyan Fraudster, has by dint of his Kenyan dog eating upbringing a deep,gaping enmity resentment towards Great Britain because of its imperial past, the manner in which it treated African village people like Obama and his family like the primitive black tribesman they were, are.And special vituperative anger towards one man more than any single British Stateman Winston Churchill, a man revered by the West and America as one of the greatest heroes of our day for almost single-handily defeating the Nazi scourge in World War 2. But Third World countries like Kenya and its dog eaters have an inborn, inherent hared for Churchill because he didn't suffer third world backward priimitive socities lightly. Well, one of the greatest gifts ever given to our country one that we held in the highest esteem was a bust of Winston Churchill, kept separate from other items of this nature due to the value we placed on an heirloom artifact given to us by England in the aftermath of World War 2.
Well,when Mr. Brown arrived in Washington, DC very early in the Obama Administration not only were they shocked by the shabby manner in which they were received by Kenyan Dog Eater but the first thing Obama did was return the priceless, most cherished gift of the bust of Winston Chuchill back to the Prime Minister along with a gift to the Queen, an IPOD along with 25 music CDs. Well, this was a most horrific diplomatic embarrassment for the British and the Royal Family since they lost the colonies in the 1700''s Is it any wonder that the British royal family invited every major world leader to their grandson's wedding but made sure to disinvite Barack and Michelle Obama, who did not attend the wedding. You must be kidding to say Americans were embarrassed by the treatment given to the president. After all he's down to destroy and embarrass our closest ally and their royal family,it is amazing the Queen even allowed him into the county lbryce.
After insulting Britain by dumping Churchill’s bust, this could have been a very well timed affront to smack him back.
Winston Churchill was a favorite of the Queen’s.
Hilariously uncomfortable moment for the narcissist-in-chief.
When 'God Save the Queen' started, Obama thought it was just part of the sound track highlighting his words. That's what I saw anyway.
Of course he thought it was all about him. He always does. The look on his face when he realizes what was happening is priceless.
There are no gaffes at these events. The slight was intended. No accidents in the palace.
Queen.
Yeah right.
Queens and Kings. Hilarious.
And apparently neither does the White House. How could they not educate this creep in etiquette? He probably blew them off...
You don’t speak over anyone’s national anthem. And you don’t mess with the Queen. She’s a tough cookie.
“In short, they were both thinking a lot about themselves at the time.”
Could not be more wrong. Her entire life and being are dedicated to the crown. Not herself, big difference. Duty and responsibility have been her guiding force all her life.
He, obviously, began the toast/speech at the wrong time - no teleprompter. No way would the Palace have messed up or deliberately set out to embarrass him. That place is run like clockwork.
Yes, he has made plenty of international gaffes where it seemed as though his staff didn’t know protocol or he just ignored it. I can’t believe we still have 2.5 years of this guy.
He just set his glass down.
Did anyone notice this?
Leni
Obama makes that face when his hemorrhoids flare up. That’s what Reggie Love told the Surgeon General.
King Barry is lost without Prince TOTUS.
An official toast doesn’t require you to actually drink. But you must raise your glass.
I know Hillery doesn't. Before any government official visit to any country or event a "book" is compiled. In it are a list of facts about the place or event and things to say or not to say.
There is no excuse for not reading this information but it is clear they do not.
no doubt...
“And you don’t mess with the Queen. She’s a tough cookie.”
You bet. Prince Phillip and the Queen are remarkably tough and resourceful.
Bathhouse Barry is the only one who screwed up. The queen, gracious as ever, tried to help him extricate his head from his nether regions, but he arrogantly blew her off. He’s a never ending source of humiliation.
They’ve spent their entire lives dedicated to their country; that builds character.
Also, QE is a stickler. I have a wonderful cookbook by one of her ex-chefs and he goes into detail about her need to get things right. She’s even a little too over-the-top for me - insisting that pancakes be flipped not turned - and standing over chefs to see them do it.
His choice was patently disrespectful as he sullenly put down his glass instead of at the minimum, putting it to his lips like everyone else in the room.
It was an obvious snub.
Leni
Ya know! He probably was informed of the protocol. I watched that vid several times. He appeared to me to be dumbfounded.
I saw the several looks on his face. I really think he was too fu@#ing stupid to remember what he was briefed on.
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