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5 Reasons Black Men Havent Advanced Over The Last 40 Years.
Thy Black Man ^ | July 21, 2014 | Dr. Boyce Watkins

Posted on 07/27/2014 8:24:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: PGR88

“People in the year 2054 will wonder why black males haven’t moved forward since their grandparents were young. “

Actually, I agree with this point.


41 posted on 07/27/2014 9:17:37 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: dfwgator
Because there are lot of black so-called “leaders” that exploit them to make money.


42 posted on 07/27/2014 9:18:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
1. Democrat Party

2. Welfare

3. U.S. Media

4. Jesse Jackson

5. Al Sharpton

43 posted on 07/27/2014 9:23:19 PM PDT by Washi
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To: UCANSEE2

They are modern day “House Negroes”.


44 posted on 07/27/2014 9:24:33 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Celtic Conservative

Stop global whining!


45 posted on 07/27/2014 9:27:30 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Gabz

Why? it’s the truth....the cause of said “truth” is what people debate...Sowell tackles this problem through at least two of his best books.


46 posted on 07/27/2014 9:29:08 PM PDT by Fernet Branca (i had a tagline but....)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Exactly. This is true for all people: White, Black, Asian, etc.

“The World doesn’t give a s—t about you.......So what?”


47 posted on 07/27/2014 9:31:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They haven’t advanced because they have an average IQ in the low 80s, and they are lazy. Bad combination.


48 posted on 07/27/2014 9:33:33 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought he might be going somewhere with point 2 about economic servitude and go into the real crux of the matter of how the welfare state destroyed the Black Family but it just devolved into normal NPR pablum.

For a doctor he doesn’t write very well but for a tenured professor at Syracuse University I figure his writing is just about average.


49 posted on 07/27/2014 9:41:02 PM PDT by webcrosby
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To: jmacusa

[Irony is lost on this guy. Good God. This is the most idiotic drivel on race in America I’ve ever read.]

I agree totally. This idiot even has a phd even though his writing is junior high school level. Just about every sentence he wrote can be easily debunked.


50 posted on 07/27/2014 9:45:01 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: El Cid

” If you remained obsessed by things that happened in the past, you will never go forward.”

There’s a lot of truth captured in that one, single sentence, and it’s applicable across races, sexes (all 7) and ages!


51 posted on 07/27/2014 9:47:27 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes, he is angry, and he makes himself to be a victim. However it may be of interest to look at some of his claims.

But there is also a counter narrative in which black men are left behind and being beaten into the ground by a society that hates them.

Who is the source of that narrative? White-owned MSM? Affirmative action? The President? Things will become much clearer once the author answers this simple question.

Even worse is that we’ve been taught to hate ourselves, thus making us complicit in our own oppression.

I hear passive voice again. Who is responsible for this teaching? It can't be a spirit. It has to be a man, and he has to have a name. Who is that man? An honest answer to that is also educational.

1) America has never acknowledged its demons: I spent many years hearing about how Hitler committed countless atrocities against the Jews. But what’s rarely shared is that the atrocities that American leaders have committed against black men and women have been equally devasting and lasted for a much longer period of time.

Why does that matter? Jews were slaves (or nearly so) in Egypt; Spaniards and Greeks suffered under Turkish occupation; Slavs were occupied by Tatar hordes; French peasants were cannon fodder to many generations of kings; all europeans were in fear of Inquisition for centuries; natives of India and China were conquered and oppressed by several European nations; same goes for American Indians. Pain and suffering of African slaves in North America is not unique. One can even compare the fate of those slaves with the fate of those who stayed behind, in Africa, and were slain in everyday tribal wars, or died from preventable illnesses that Europeans already learned to treat. Even today Africa is not one of more desirable destinations. Still, if we compare suffering of African slaves to suffering of Jews in hands of Nazis... were they slain and burned to ashes by millions? Jews recovered, and they now have the most advanced state in the area. Technologically, Israel is on par with the USA. Some American slaves went back to Africa and founded Liberia in around 1820. Is modern Liberia comparable to Israel? If not, why? Those are important questions.

American officials are both lying and in serious denial of what they have done to the black man, woman and child over the last 400 years.

OK, it's the "Bush's fault" again. Did anyone specifically oppress you personally, Mr. Watkins? Or, if not you, then someone else that you know? If that did happen, what have you done to correct that?

Many of us don’t support black businesses. We don’t trust one another and some of us don’t even believe our most powerful celebrities have any obligation to anyone other than themselves. The oppression won’t end unless we stop accepting it.

Don't stop just like that, Mr. Watkins. Go on. Explain WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. People are neither insane nor illogical. If you do not trust a black business, explain why it is so. Go public with your reasons. Those businesses (that are honest) will be happy to alleviate your fears.

Those of us who come from educated families are often told that your job is to get a good education and make sure you are well-behaved so that a friendly white man will give you a job. Then, when the MBA, PhD, or MD finds himself in the unemployment line, he becomes so frustrated that he gives himself hypertension or ends up drinking his problems away after realizing the obvious: America doesn’t give a damn about you.

America doesn't give a damn about anyone, you and me included. It's not a sentient being; it's a process not unlike gravity that makes water flow downhill. You have to give water a pretty good reason why it should go here and not there. We construct dams and we dig channels to that effect. In area of education and labor we try to become good in our trade, and we try to sell services that are wanted by others. In my personal area of expertise the USA is seriously in need of educated workers - but there are none to be had because "the math is too hard," as modern students explain it. As result, you can count on fingers of one hand how many RF engineers in a large company can design an analog RF path that works. But if you specialize in Mayan hieroglyphics... sorry, there is very little demand for that in this world.

Those of us who get to keep our jobs become part of the angry black middle class: The people who work 10 times harder than the white guy down the hall, but keep getting passed over for promotions.

Promotions and raises are rarely given based on color of someone's skin. They are given based on importance of this and that worker, as a retention measure. If someone is repeatedly getting passed over, then perhaps the management thinks (for some reason) that this person is not that important, and if he quits then nobody would be upset. I don't want to speak for all managers, but statistically this ought to be true.

That’s when a man like Henry Louis Gates gets arrested on his front porch and is astonished that a police officer would treat him that way.

What makes you think that the same police officer wouldn't treat a white man in the same manner in the same suspicious circumstances? Why is it even possible that an educated man speaks to the police officer in the language of a gangbanger? Isn't that a bit suspicious? Wouldn't Mr. Gates, "an American literary critic, educator, scholar, writer, and editor," be somewhat better off if he chose to speak to the policeman in a bit higher English - that a literary scholar has to know, I hope? Isn't Mr. Gates capable of quoting giants of English literature? A policeman would react to the language, since it's his job to judge people. But Mr. Gates made his choice - and he chose poorly.

It’s OK for brothers to love sports, but why can’t we also love science in the same way? Why not break down your OWN investment portfolio and entrepreneurial possibilities instead of living vicariously through someone you’ll never meet? Why are we so obsessed with sports that we love athletics to the exclusion of nearly everything else? Why do we allow people in our communities to suck up our kids into football and basketball programs at an early age, but aren’t equally diligent in getting these young men into programs that will lead to economic prosperity?

Mr. Watkins is too shy to offer us his answer to this question. Let me answer that for him. Science is HARD and boring. That's why. There is no other reason. You cannot become even an engineer without mastering Calculus; usually higher areas of mathematical analysis are required. It takes several years even for a pretty smart student to learn the bare minimum to go on with understanding of physical processes in materials, pipes, waveguides, wings and propellers, rocket engines... Even the Maxwell's equations, the basis of all electromagnetic theory, are written in the language of differential equations; they look like gibberish to uninitiated. This stuff is hard. It can be learned, but you better be eager for knowledge - and you still will be practicing analytical solutions of weird integrals for months before you get passably good at that. Then you proceed with numerical methods for those integrals that have no symbolic solution :-)

4) White-owned, corporate hip-hop presents an image of us that is inaccurate, but we eat it up like crackheads: The imagery of toxic corporate hip-hop has taken us to the point that otherwise intelligent and productive black men are reduced to nothing more than cartoon characters. There are many amazing artists in the world doing great things, but these are not the ones being sprinkled onto your child’s brain by Clear Channel and other national media outlets. Instead, they are given a daily dose of weaponized brainwashing to convince your son that his job is to “smoke weed, [expletive] b*tches, get money and shoot n*ggaz.”

You mean that the hip-hop, rap culture is performed on the scene by white gentlemen in expensive business suits? There'd be no hip-hop culture without eager participation of black artists. They are doing it because it sells. In other words, they are selling you a lighter version of drugs. Why don't you try to do something about it? I can't help you here, as I hate rap already.

American prisons are our version of concentration camps. Most of us have family members who’ve suffered irreversible trauma, physical harm or even death at the hands of either the police or the prison system. This system has turned black male children into a commodity no less profitable than pigs to a sausage factory.

I have no desire to defend the prison industry. It is real. However no LEO would be able to arbitrarily imprison one black man after another, day after day after day, if they are all innocent. But the incarceration rate is high. Perhaps Mr. Watkins should look into conviction statistics and figure out why exactly the judges are sending those black boys to the Big House. What is it - drugs, or public violence, or stolen property, or threats? It got to be something, each and every time. I can believe that one or two men, now and then, can be railroaded. This had happened before, and probably it happens today. But excuse me, not on this scale!

It’s time to become radical and realize that progress won’t be made until we DEMAND it.

Please go ahead and start cleaning your own house. If you are even minimally successful in that, you will get all the support imaginable from all walks of life in the USA. No social group in the USA benefits from the status quo. Not even your own, if you can explain it to them.

52 posted on 07/27/2014 9:51:33 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Celtic Conservative

I stopped reading at “demons”.


53 posted on 07/27/2014 9:59:29 PM PDT by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, the real reason is because the majority of blacks believe this tripe.

I’m so over this crap. I don’t do “white guilt.” I suspect allot of others are over it as well.


54 posted on 07/27/2014 10:02:30 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He missed the most important reason - “The Bell Curve”.

Who is holding the blacks in Africa? Or in Haiti? Or in all the other places with black majorities that have been ruled by blacks for tens of decades and longer.

They could be doing better then they are, but as long as they look for others to blame, they won’t.


55 posted on 07/27/2014 10:12:52 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bkmk


56 posted on 07/27/2014 10:16:11 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“ Dr. Watkins may have a PhD...”

This article is evidence that it’s an affirmative action PhD.


57 posted on 07/27/2014 10:17:06 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Who is holding the blacks in Africa? Or in Haiti? Or in all the other places with black majorities that have been ruled by blacks for tens of decades and longer.


I read an essay written by an African scholar that basically said “America, if you want to help us please stop helping us.” The premise was liberal aid stunted innovation and development.

I’ve seen that “gifts” of rice to Haiti under value Hatian grown rice to the point where the cost of production outweighs potential profit.

Few things are more harmful than the liberal desire to “help.” Sorry if this wasn’t the answer you wanted.


58 posted on 07/27/2014 10:17:27 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Islander2

Social promotion is strong in this doctor.

His point of “miseducation” should be rife with stories from his life and he bungled that one too.


59 posted on 07/27/2014 10:18:15 PM PDT by webcrosby
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To: Greysard

60 posted on 07/27/2014 10:25:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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