Skip to comments.Obama Eligibility Appeals Case Winds Up In Alabama Supreme Court With Established Birther Judges
Posted on 03/31/2013 9:33:30 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
The case is called McInnish-Goode-v-Chapman. What is interesting about this case is that newly elected Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court is Roy Moore. In the past, he has expressed doubts of where Obama was born. Also interesting is that another Alabama Supreme Court Justice named Tom Parker has gone on record arguing that McInnishs charges of forgery on Obama's 'Short Form' birth certificate and 'Long Form' birth certificate were legitimate cause for concern mainly due to Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Maricopa County Sheriff Office investigation conclusions. Justice Parker wrote on March 27, 2012:
"Mclnnish has attached certain documentation to his mandamus petition, which, if presented to the appropriate forum as part of a proper evidentiary presentation, would raise serious questions about the authenticity of both the "short form" and the "long form" birth certificates of President Barack Hussein Obama that have been made public"
Arpaio's investigation results confirming Obama has a forged birth certificate and a forged Selective Service Registration Application has been submitted to the court in a affidavit. Chief Justice Moore is on the record questioning Obamas eligibility. He defended Lt. Col Terrence Lakins demand that President Obama prove his eligibility as commander in chief as a condition of obeying deployment orders. Moore said he had seen no convincing evidence that Obama is a natural-born citizen and much evidence that suggests he is not. Moore said Lakin not only has a right to follow his personal convictions under the Constitution, he has a duty. And if the authority running the efforts of the war is not a citizen in violation of the Constitution, the order is unlawful, he said. Roy Moore is best known for making national headlines when he defied a federal order to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the state Supreme Court building.
That’s how they’re trying to destroy the US.
Not holding my breath, the judges life expectancy just went down.
Let’s hope these Justices make the right decision. They seem to be of good ethical character.
Another body to add to the pile. Evil seems to have just wrapped itself amongst us.
Can’t wait until this is all over. I pray it is sooner rather than later.
Hope none of these guys wakes up one morning with a horse head in his bed.
The judge needs to issue some enforceable subpoenas, so that original documents will be sourced from Hawaii and the federal government. Until verifiable facts are made known to the public, actions of a court in Alabama will have no impact on anything in DC.
Obama’s father was a Kenyan for Christ’s sake.. Hello?
No judge in his right mind is going to rule on this case. HUSSEIN is dictator and that’s the way it’s going to be, whether he’s a citizen or not, end of story.
“Obamas father was a Kenyan for Christs sake”
“established birther judges”.
This is so typical of the hate-America crowd, but especially Fogbow. It’s about the U.S.Constitution, stupid!
These judges are, as all judges should be, concentrating on the rule of law.
“Obamas father was a Kenyan for Christs sake”
I’d like to see a DNA matchup to prove it! With his mother, there may have been more “Holder’s people” in her “woodpile” than we know!
I’m not part of that crowd!
Well, that's what Obama told us, in addition to having been born there (from his own book cover)
Disagree. A ruling of ineligibility from Alabama and the forensics evidence can be utilized by other states in similar suits culminating as a 2014 campaign issue for midterm elections.
Pressure can mount for the House to appoint a special prosecutor who can subpoena Hawaii and can investigate Obama who is already implicated in fraud.
....Just do it now....while the TSA goons are trying on their new uniforms and most of the billion rounds of ammo has either not been delivered or is unpacked in storage.
But of course you can not prove that. Judge Moore belongs on the SCOTUS.
You have a good point, as promotion of the issue for 2014 could in theory result in election of super-super-majority in Congress that would be capable of sustaining an impeachment.
That of course presumes voter attention and interest.
But with the Soros groups financing the BO “message machine” and its corruption of the voting system, including the prospect of up to 11 million new citizens being motivated to exploit “same day registration” by then, will it matter?
I know you’re not - the article you linked to is from Fogbow, and I am criticizing that Obama front group.
At some point we have to redound to best credible information. Otherwise, anyone anywhere in the world could say(as an example)- “60 years ago my mother and father flew from china to the U.S. , got emergency citizenship just before I was born, and then flew back to Shanghai before anyone even knew we had left.. Prove otherwise.”
There is no credible information and the person in question absolute refuses to comply with common practice. He can not be trusted.
If a special prosecutor investigates Onaka and others in Hawaii government (which all locals know is corrupt) and obtains evidence of fraud, then two things happen:
1. The Obama supporting press attacks the character of the Special Prosecutor and attempts to discount his evidence,
2. Voters see through the charade of Obama and his paid press support and elect enough members of Congress to swing power to the GOP.
I don’t see a super majority as necessary. If Onaka is indicted and is made to confess, enough dems will stand down to allow Obama to be exposed.
The key is to reveal the corruption in the Hawaii government.
I think you’re wrong and may have it backwards. The administration is afraid of this Judge because he doesn’t back down and can’t be bought.
He’ll get the message and fold like a cheap suit if he knows what’s good for him. Either that or he’ll wind up on the side of the road with a bullet in his head, or dead on the sidewalk of cyanide poisoning, or found shot in the head in his car.
I wish the revelation of corruption would be sufficient to motivate voters to toss those responsible out of office.
But in practice it hasn’t.
The trend is using “messaging” and huge detailed databases to identify and motivate “low information” voters to outnumber those who pay more attention to the actions of public officials. There is big money behind this tactic, much of it from individuals and groups who stand to benefit from favorable governmental policy rulings and others who just get outright giveaways.
I'm confused, what would you like o see a DNA matchup of?? zero admits that his father was Kenyan, the fraudulent BCs zero has presented states that his father was Kenyan and the immigration data on his father also state that he was Kenyan.
So, what, exactly, is a DNA matchup going to prove? Are you suggesting that BHO Sr. WASN'T his father!??
Another Judge Roberts?
Onaka is the heart of the case. Indicting him and obtaining a confession as part of a plea agreement will establish Hawaii government fraud in Obama’s birth certificate and in so doing will demolish all defenses by Obama and his supporting press.
Onaka is already implicated by evidence of fraud by Arpaio’s investigators; it’s not a stretch to project a special prosecutor indicting him given enough political pressure by state courts.
As for general corruption, even deep blue union racket controlled Hawaii government can’t tolerate it when its stench becomes overwhelming. This is the reason democrats were thrown out more than 10 years ago in favor of Linda Lingle. So indeed ***there is evidence*** that corruption in government is sufficient to throw the corrupt out of office.
True enough, but the pressure has been out there for awhile and the House has done nothing. This is a political hot potato and the spineless 'Pubbies are not interested in another Bill Clinton-style impeachment stalemate.
and Soros (and relatives) are germinating “New Americans” every year.
Try to find a “John Smith” or “Regular Joe Schmoe” in their “picks”.
The weight of the entire federal government will intervene to protect Onaka. They have the resources, and they have too much to lose.
Consider how anyone targeted gets railroaded (Terry Lakin, and George Zimmerman come first to mind. Consider also Larry Sinclair and the actions of Joe Biden’s son).
Then consider how we never heard anything of importance from Rezko, who is neck deep in the mire there, despite oversight from a US attorney who was a Bush appointee. Consider the complete absence of results from police investigations of the murders in the Chicago church run by Rev. Wright, and the DC shooting of Lieutenant Quarles Harris.
Justice through official means? We’ve waited now, for 5 solid years.
There will be no “solid, undeniable evidence from the alleged sources (i.e. HDOH)” because they are implicated in fraud and cover-up.
The forensics evidence has not been established in any court yet. All the attempts have been dismissed and the evidence is therefore not backed by any court. That can change in Alabama.
Judge Moore or any ‘Birther’ judge will be ridiculed and marginalized. But once one court establishes a ruling based on the evidence, then standing is established to take the case to other state courts. This undoubtedly lends momentum to a campaign issue for 2014.
Without doubt the democratic and press fallback position will be laid on the evidence provided by HDOH Onaka but Onaka is possibly moments away from a grand jury indictment in Arizona and is implicated clearly in fraud; he cannot run away from it, was not smart enough to cover his tracks. Thus, when the press and the Obama administration people go to Onaka as a backstop, that backstop will be shaky.
Concurrently, if enough pressure is mounted by state courts following on a presumed Alabama ruling of ineligibility, a special prosecutor can be established. Boehner may resist but will be compelled to appoint an SP once the outcry reaches a level that can’t be ignored, especially with evidence of fraud and cover-up in HDOH. An SP should easily be able to get a confession as part of a plea agreement form Onaka. Hawaii government employees and officials will never go to prison if they can avoid it.
Therefore, the events will play out in sequence:
1. Alabama admits forensics evidence as to fraud in Obama’s official documents.
2. Other states follow.
3. The press scrambles to assassinate the characters of the “Birther Judges”.
4. The evidence of fraud by Hawaii’s HDOH (Onaka) hits the press as the press attempts to use Onaka letters to discredit the “Birthers”.
5. Enough states call for an SP and for Boehner to appoint.
6. Boehner appoints an SP and the SP indicts Onaka, obtains a confession as part of a plea agreement.
7. The press attempts to discredit the SP as a republican plant and hack.
8. The 2014 midterms swing power to the GOP in both chambers of Congress (but no super-majority).
9. Many Dems remaining in Congress are muted, neutered and are forced to the side to allow Obama to be exposed to charges of fraud.
10. In 2015 the issue becomes a presidential election issue.
The above event outline leaves the dems and the leftist press defeated unless there are sufficient voter registrations of illegals and sufficient ballot stuffing to ensure stolen elections. The Republican establishment having achieved status as the ‘Stupid Party’ will not see the weakness in their flank due to illegal immigration reform. Hence, conservatives need to shore up opposition to illegal immigration reform and stop the legislation as well as hamper Obama’s recent ‘vote reform’ initiatives.
it’s more likely jimmi hendrix is barry’s pappy than the kenyan
They cannot stop a special prosecutor who is authorized by the House, especially now as it is controlled by the GOP.
They can attempt to hamper the SP’s investigation or their surrogates in the press will surely attack his character, but they cannot stop the SP’s investigation. The reason is it is not the federal government that controls the evidence, it is the State of Hawaii and states are subordinate to an SP’s subpoenas. In other words, unless Onaka takes his own life or someone else does it for him, he will be made to answer the evidence against him.
Remember the SP who investigated Clinton? Ken Starr. Starr was never stopped. He only found that White House personnel had been used to lie about Clinton’s involvement with the intern as part of a sexual harassment lawsuit of Paula Jones. Clinton was impeached in the House on obstruction of justice but he was not convicted in the Senate because his crime or misdemeanor was not considered high enough. But without doubt the sordid events left the public wanting a new cleaner administration. But even then the vote fraud forces in Bush vs. Gore would have put Gore in the White House had it not been for Freepers in this forum who stopped a critical secret counting.
So that’s how it plays,
Fraud and Obstruction
Indictments, Impeachment and Senate Trial
Clinton is a liar, so was Nixon. So is Obama. What if Obama says he never knew that HDOH had forged his BC, that they were zealous and reckless but he still believes he was born in Hawaii. He plays innocent of any wrong doing.
I am not sure Obama would be convicted in the Senate even with a GOP majority. The reason is based on the question of what high crimes and dismeanors is Obama guilty?
How does the USA remove a president who has not been proven guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors?
Certainly others can be prosecuted such as Pelosi and others who certified his eligility. But Obama? How if he pleads innocent based on ignorance?
Freepers will say yes but he’s ineligible! Yes, but Obama will say he is eligible and there is no evidence that he isn’t.
Freepers will say but the evidence was all phony! And Obama will say “yeah, those folks got a little to reckless but I was born in Hawaii, prove me wrong!”
So an SP will get Onaka, possibly get Pelosi and other high level democrat operatives but won’t be able to get Obama unless someone comes forward with evidence that Obama knew all along that he was not eligible.
...” So an SP will get Onaka,possibly get Pelosi and other high level democrat operatives but wont be able to get Obama unless someone comes forward with evidence that Obama knew all along that he was not eligible.”
If 0 used/claimed foreign status at occidental college, then he would have known all along he wasn’t eligible.
Item #6 is the weak link in the chain of events.
Judge Moore is not a traitor to the Constitution like the pirate Roberts.
This strategy has many consequences, not the least of which is the subversion of the oath the congress critters took. It also creates an atmosphere of lawlessness, which real very powerful background figures desire for the We The People Republic. Put another way, there is much more which must be opposed than just the crimianlity of this sonofabitch the democrips have placed in power. We The People must oppose this trend or be completely usurped and no longer living ina rule of law, Constitutional Republic where we the people are the sovereigns. The people we have elected have committed treachery against us by voiding their oaths. If they get away with that reality, we are no longer our own rulers, we become a ruled people at the mercy of any evil which takes control of the forces to tyrannically rule over US.
Sure, I’m on pins and needles to see him and the lawyers in court like last time. Oh, wait, they gave the judge the finger and didn’t show up.
One judge in Alabama is unlikely to take actions which threaten the entire federal establishment. Because even if he does, he will be opposed in ways we can’t imagine at this time (same as has occurred in all the hearings on this matter held to this date). It’s easier to oppose throuhg non-compliance or outright fraud, than the required alternative.
Can you imagine anyone wanting to re-visit every appointment, every signed piece of federal legislation, every action by the commander in chief, and every executive order, by having to draft a complete set of documents retroactively approving all of these (or, negotiating whether to do so on a case-by-case basis)?
That would require thousands of proactive civil servants whose primacy is support of the constitution (if you know where such a staff can be located, do tell).
You would do well to familiarize yourself with Judge Moore’s stand on the Ten Commandments displayed before the Alabama courthouse.
Then Judge Moore would do well to up his security detail (and make sure his insurance is current too).
tHERE ARE WORSE THINGS THAN DYING FOR YOUR CONVICTIONS ... living as a coward or violator of your oaths comes to mind. The operant term is ‘integrity’, the thing little barry basatrd boy has none of and Judge Moore has in abundance, naturally, because he is a MAN of character not a ‘community organizer’.
The Chicago political machine is not run by men with “convictions” (except for those actually convicted).
Remember it is not just Judge Moore who doubts Obama. There is also Alabama Justice Tom Parker.He stated:
“Mclnnish has attached certain documentation to his mandamus petition,which, if presented to the appropriate forum as part of a proper evidentiary presentation, would raise serious questions about the authenticity of both the “short form” and the “long form” birth certificates ofPresident Barack Hussein Obama that have been made public”
What you point to, i.e. the collateral possibilities, is why it will be very important for Obama and his enablers to quash any negatives in the Alabama case. You can bet the White House that they are working to do such right at this moment.
Has anyone here bothered to read the appellants’ brief? Do you realize that the defendant is the Alabama Secretary of State? Neither Obama nor the Alabama Democratic Party is a party to this suit. The Alabama Supreme Court is not being asked to rule on Obama’s eligibility.
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